[Talk-GB] Listed buildings info licence [from: Historic England - tagging guidelines - can we agree on the English usage]

[Jez Nicholson]

I just linked it to its Wikidata record. Wikidata has all (not sure from
when) the listed buildings, and could aid with additional linked data.

On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 3:40 PM Mark Goodge <mark at good-stuff.co.uk> wrote:

>
>
> On 21/07/2021 14:55, Edward Bainton wrote:
> > I like the full name and I like the GB namespace.
> >
> > May I fork the thread and ask about listed buildings generally?
> >
> > There's a useful website that claims its info on listed stuff comes from
> > the Open Government licence.
> > https://britishlistedbuildings.co.uk/site/about
> > <https://britishlistedbuildings.co.uk/site/about>
> >
> > I see the wiki says OGL needs reviewing case-by-case.
> > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Government_Licence
> > <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Government_Licence>
> >
> > Any views on whether it's safe to include data from that site (or from
> > the source Crown Copyright sites) in the map?
>
> The Historic England downloadable data is OGL:
>
>
> https://historicengland.org.uk/terms/website-terms-conditions/data-downloads/
>
> There's the usual disclaimer that if any part of the data is sourced
> from OS, then OS may also assert rights over it. But I think that's just
> backside covering by HE; there doesn't seem to be anything in the data
> that is likely to fall foul of OS rights.
>
> If you actually download the data itself, then the zip file comes with a
> copy of the OGL and a PDF which essentially repeats the page cited above.
>
> > Eg, there are some tags I'd like to include on Ivor House in Taunton.
> >
> https://britishlistedbuildings.co.uk/101059941-ivor-house-taunton-deane-taunton-manor-and-wilton-ward
>
> What information on there are you specifically interested in? If it
> helps, the data in the grey box is all explicitly OGL - the entry
> details are directly from the bulk downloads (as above), and the
> location data is inferred from ONS and OS open data products as well as
> the Historic Counties Trust. Mapcodes and Pluscodes use the standard
> open source algorithms as per their respective creators.
>
> It has just occurred to me that the credits page doesn't mention these
> additional sources (because, when I originally put the site together, I
> wasn't using them). I do need to update that!
>
> At some point, when I have sufficient circular tuits, I also want to
> cross-reference the Historic England GIS downloads with the ONS and OS
> Open UPRN datasets, to see if I can identify the correct UPRN for each
> entry.
>
> Mark
>
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