[Talk-GB] Historic England - tagging guidelines - can we agree on the English usage

[Robert Skedgell]

On 22/07/2021 13:56, Mike Baggaley wrote:
> 
>> I also think that full name should be used for heritage:operator=Historic
>> England
> 
> I agree - operator is a name type field, and can see no reason why heritage:operator should be treated differently.

Agreed. I've used the "he" value documented in the wiki, but would much
rather have used "Historic England" than a potentially cryptic abbreviation.

> 
>> I would like refs to be GB namespaced.... ref:GB:he, ref:GB:hs,
>> ref:GB:cadw, ref:GB:niea
> 
> I disagree with both the GB namespace and the use of the abbreviated operator name. These make it very difficult to extract data from different countries. I suggest heritage:ref is much simpler to use.

I would agree with that. As there is likely to be only one heritage=*
and one heritage:operator=* tag, one heritage:ref=* tag. If someone
feels masochistic enough to make a proposal, the unnecessary and
parochial HE_ref=* should probably be deprecated at the same time.

> 
> Cheers,
> Mike
> 
>>
>> On 21/07/2021 11:51, Tony Shield wrote:
>>> -------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> There is clear conflict between heritage:operator with values of
>>> Historic England and he.
>>>
>>> References are using the tags HE_ref or ref:he with the same value.
>>>
>>> Data Integrity suggests using one method of tagging and having the
>>> documentation clear about which tagging to use.
>>>
>>> Can we discuss with a view to agreeing one method - the Global heritage
>>> style or the UK listed status style?
>>
>> My personal opinion, for what it's worth, is that the value of
>> heritage:operator should be the normal English name, not an
>> abbreviation. So
>>
>> heritage:operator=Historic England
>> heritage:operator=Cadw
>> heritage:operator=Historic Environment Scotland
>> heritage:operator=Northern Ireland Environment Agency
>>
>> but the ref tag should follow the global pattern, rather than creating
>> new tags, and use abbreviations. So, for example:
>>
>> ref:he=12345
>> ref:hs=LB2345
>> ref:cadw=34567
>> ref:niea=55643