[Talk-GB] Is it useful to tag material=* of stiles?

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Would (any of) you agree with what I had originally written on the relevant issue at https://github.com/streetcomplete/StreetComplete/issues/2991 (since I am the one who submitted it) that it is useful to tag material=stone on stile=stepover due to the fairly significant differences in design?

> The method of traversing [stone step-over stiles] is slightly different [to wooden step-over stiles], since you tend to have to climb up onto the stone wall, rather than swinging your legs over a wooden fence.

Also, some wooden stiles have much more fence to swing your legs over from the top step than others.  Is their currently a recommended way of tagging this?  It wouldn't necessarily have a constant correlation with the overall height of the fence or stile.  I don't imagine most people carry a tape measure with them… (I don't)

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On Monday, June 28th, 2021 at 17:21, Michael Collinson <mike at ayeltd.biz> wrote:

> Trying to be objective, I think
> "The stile should be tagged with material=* with values stone, wood, or metal."
> would be better as
> "The stile can be tagged with material=* with values stone, wood, or metal."
> 

> I'm obsessive about finding nice park benches to have my lunch on and do map material as it adds to the subjective experience but I am hard pressed to see that here. The only thing I can think of is that stone stiles are generally much easier to cross in wet weather as wood gets slippy. I from the area area your next email is about, and I've never thought about it.
> 

> As an older person who sometimes walks with a friend with a dog, I'd define "usefulness" as:
> 

> - how easy is it to transit?
> - how easy is it to get a dog over?
> 

> style_type, step_count and dog_gate answers most of that. An indication of height and ladder types might also help - UK Yorkshire has bionic sheep and the heights are sometimes enormous.
> 

> Else, as the stile entry points out, recording stone adds a historical dimension. Interesting but not *generally* useful.
> 

> Mike
> 

> On 2021-06-28 17:30, Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-GB wrote:
> 

> > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:barrier%3Dstile#Stile_type claims
> > 

> > "Where possible, the stile should be tagged with material=* with values stone, wood, or metal."
> > 

> > But is it actually useful? Based on photos it seems that basically all stiles within
> > walls are mostly material=stone and ones with fences typically wooden,
> > with ladder stiles made of wood.
> > 

> > Is it useful to tag it to catch unique cases?
> > 

> > Also, what should be tagged if stile is made both out of wood and stone?
> > Dominant material? Neither? stone;wood?
> > 

> > See
> > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Drystone_Wall_(26721799888).png
> > https://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/398328
> > 

> > Asking as I am considering implementing StreetComplete quest but
> > I am not sure is it worth asking.
> > 

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