[Talk-GB] Advice please: Goat tracks in mountain areas

[Peter Neale]

Hi Martin,
I am sorry, but we really should not be looking at ways to falsify data, in order to get Strava (or any other app, renderer, or user) to behave sensibly.  If Strava chooses to ignore barriers, that is Strava's problem.
We hear a lot on this group about "don't tag for the renderer".  I would refine that slightly; If any tags are used to render a map, (or to select a route), the tagging is benefitting the renderer (or other app), so we are always "tagging for the / a / some renderer(s)".   If we don't want out tagging to be used to render a map, the whole of OSM will become a "write-only" database, of no use to anyone. 
What we should never do (IMHO) is MIS-tag for the renderer.  We should not tag one thing as being something else in order to make it render on our perferred map.  So (to make up a fictitious example), if walls are rendered on you favourite map, but fences are not, DO NOT re-tag a fence as a wall, in order to see it on the map.  Instead, go and talk to the renderer and ask / suggest / demand that they render fences, as well as walls.
Just my 2p.
Regards,Peter(aka PeterPan99) 

    On Sunday, 6 February 2022, 13:09:33 GMT, Martin Wynne <martin at 85a.uk> wrote:  
 
 All these suggestions for tagging such paths are fine.

But they are not going to prevent the Strava algorithm from detecting 
the route as a public highway, which was the original request. I have 
seen Strava routes go straight through barriers marked as brick walls, 
so a hazard=yes tag isn't going to stop them.

The only way to do that is to put a gap in it, so that it becomes two 
dead ends instead of a through route. Or else remove the highway tag 
entirely.

There must surely be a short section of it where it becomes very 
indistinct on the ground? If not, perhaps you could create one on site? 
You can then remove that section from the route - no such path exists. 
If the path is a genuine hazard to life and limb it would be a laudable 
way to spend an afternoon with a shovel.

cheers,

Martin.

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