[Talk-GB] "Help 999 teams find missing heart defibrillators"

Chris Andrew cjhandrew at gmail.com
Sat Jul 2 13:40:50 UTC 2022


Looks like 'thecircuit.uk' needs the following when registering a
defibrillator. I wonder how much is currently addressed in OSM tagging, and
then StreetComplete? This info was just a quick look at the website, not
the full registration process:


   - You will need to know the location and surroundings of the
   defibrillator
   - You will need the brand, model and device serial number
   - You will need to know when the defibrillator is accessible
   - You will need to know when the pads expire and if the battery displays
   its ready signal i.e. a green light, so we can understand if it's emergency
   ready

Cheers,

Chris
chris_debian

On Sat, 2 Jul 2022, 14:12 Jass Kurn, <jasskurn at gmail.com> wrote:

> This is about a news release regarding "The Circuit", its access to OS
> Data, and a request for people to submit their defibrillators.
>
> After several years of discussions, the British Heart Foundation (BHF) has
> been chosen to create a new national database of defibrillators that are
> made available for emergency public use (bystander defibrillation). The
> project is called "The Circuit". Prior to this the information was broken
> up, incomplete, and split between several different organizations.
>
> This Circuit may have received data from other databases, but it appears
> much of the data is newly created. Defibrillator data is added by the
> owner(s) of the defibrillator, which are commonly local community
> organisations. There are major issues with mapping the location of
> defibrillators. Location data appears to be created through standard UK
> addresses. But many defibrillators have been put in locations without
> addresses (old telephone boxes), or are located using postcode data which
> can place the  defibrillator 100's of meters from its actual location.
>
> The BBC article is about a partial solution to the location issue. Public
> Sector organisations can get free access to Ordnance Surveys
> databases, which could be used to improve mapping data. But, The Circuit is
> not an official Public Sector organisation. So... Ordnance Survey accepted
> a work around where the East Midlands Ambulance Service will legally access
> the data on behalf of The Circuit. The result is that The Circuit can now
> access OS data to allocate a UPRN to each address. This should provide more
> accurate locations, and objects such as disused telephone boxes should have
> a UPRN.
>
> The BBC news release also brings up and discusses the need for
> defibrillator owners to register their defibrillators with The Circuit. The
> "elephant in the room".  From my local experience, there are more missing
> from the database than there are wrongly located.
>
> Below is a link to the OS press release.
>
> https://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/newsroom/news/british-heart-foundation-database-defibrillators
>
>
> Jass
>
>
>
> On Fri, 1 Jul 2022 at 13:10, Andy Mabbett <andy at pigsonthewing.org.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> BBC News: "Ambulance services are appealing for the public's help to
>> find 70,000 defibrillator devices scattered in community locations
>> across the UK."
>>
>> "Ordnance Survey can give it a Unique Property Reference Number to
>> identify the precise location."
>>
>>    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-61992745
>>
>>
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>> Andy Mabbett
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>> http://pigsonthewing.org.uk
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