[Talk-GB] OS "standard map" and use of OSM ways marked private

[Jez Nicholson]

Hi Jass,

In my role as a Director of OSMUK I have been in contact with the product
manager of the OS Standard Map app.

They were both aware of the problem and keen to prevent it, with the
proviso that their application solely uses Mapbox layers and styling.

The footpaths layer in Mapbox Streets is neither attributed with 'access'
nor split into separate permitted/private layers, so a developer is unable
to tell whether there is an access restriction.

OS have made requests through their Mapbox account handler, and Mapbox have
plans to include access restrictions....but the question is whether and
when plans become reality.

We wait in hope.

BTW, whilst I'm here, this is the kind of task an OSMUK Director does.
That, and a 1hr call on 1st Monday of the month 7:40-8:30. We rotate 2
Directors each year to get in new blood and ideas. It is what you make of
it. All UK mappers should consider giving it a go. Email the OSMUK board if
it could be you.

Regards,
              Jez

On Fri, 22 Jul 2022, 15:02 Jass Kurn, <jasskurn at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Back in April this year, there was a discussion here about Ordnance Survey
> and issues with their use of OSM data. OS has a free map that is sourcing,
> via Mapbox, footway/path/track data from OSM, but ignoring access
> restrictions. Resulting in OS app users going down ways which OSM tags
> access=no/private/destination.
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-gb/2022-April/028875.html
>
> Noticed yesterday that OS are updating their "free" map, but the access
> issues are still there. This free map is called "Standard Map". OS state
> "Standard Map is our free map layer which can be used by people all around
> the world to help them get outside." Links to the existing map, and a link
> to page with new version are below
>
> Current Map - OSmaps Explore
> <https://explore.osmaps.com/?lat=54.449073&lon=-3.054940&zoom=12.9284&overlays=&style=Standard&type=2d&placesCategory=>
>
> Upcoming Version - OSmaps Standard Map - update news
> <https://osmaps.com/standard-map>
>
> OS appears to be adding several types of data from OSM but I don't have
> the capability to work them all out. (e.g. footways, paths, tracks, park
> names & viewpoints) and I have noted they don't show highway=steps leading
> to misleading gaps in footways/paths. In the new map they appear to remove
> all OS path data, relying entirely on OSM
>
> I believe this new/newer "Standard Map"could become popular in the UK, and
> not just for walkers. It looks better, and has good detail, and POI layers.
> But... the issue with the poor use of OSM data still remains. The map still
> appears not to engage with the existence of the OSM access tag. I am
> concerned issues with the public going down private ways will increase, and
> that OS will refer the public to OSM stating it's an OSM issue. Did anybody
> reach out to OS at the time of the last discussion, and was there any
> response?
>
> Jass
>
>
>
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