[Talk-GB] Edits being made by a National Trust GIS team member

[Brian Prangle]

 " I want to spend my OSM time contributing improvements to the OSM
database, not chasing up contributors who really should know better."

*So do the first bit and drop the second. *
Let others who are more patient take up that challenge
Everyone starts out here as a newbie (even GIS professionals who find OSM
methods strange) and we should be handholding and encouraging and
teaching,  not berating them.
Constant criticism, with negative judgments and high expectations  that
they'll get everything right first time only serve to demotivate people and
drive them away.
A lot of work by OSMUK directors went into persuading NT to use OSM, we
need to be patient and engage with them positively by welcoming their
involvement and not undo all that good work.

On Sun, 12 Feb 2023 at 19:19, Dave F via Talk-GB <talk-gb at openstreetmap.org>
wrote:

>
> Question to all: Are there other GIS members of the NT contributing to OSM?
>
>
> On 12/02/2023 17:21, Jez Nicholson wrote:
> > I for one and extremely proud to have an organisation on the level of
> > the National Trust using OSM. It is a huge stamp of approval for our
> > project
>
> Great, I suppose, but unsure how that improves the quality of the OSM
> database.
>
> > over other *ahem* national mapping providers.
>
> Irrelevant to the problem.
>
> >
> > They engaged here a number of times, talked with OSMUK,
>
> How? Where? It doesn't appears to have borne fruit.
>
> > and presented at State of the Map. COVID lockdown slowed momentum but
> > now they are reinvigorated.
>
> Again, irrelevant.
>
> >
> > Their rangers are being introduced to mapping through some shared
> > guidelines, but, like all individuals, they will occasionally make
> > mistakes or even not map as you would.
>
> If it were an "individual occasionally making mistakes" I wouldn't have
> posted.
>
> The NT are meant to be a *professional* organisation. A *GIS* team
> member should have at least the /basic/ comprehension of cartography. I
> can't speak for all of the NT employee's contributions, but the
> changeset I mentioned has gone beyond the realms of newbie accidental
> changes into concerted, deliberate changes - PROWs were knowingly removed.
>
> > They've looked at path mapping in detail and will take on board any
> > comments and adjust accordingly.
>
> How do you know that? Has someone from the NT GIS team been in contact
> with you, or are you a GIS team member?
>
> >
> > As you all know, there is never a perfect set of OSM tags and the
> > world gets messier the closer you look at it.
>
> Again the amendments go beyond that.
>
> ---------
>
> I want to spend my OSM time contributing improvements to the OSM
> database, not chasing up contributors who really should know better.
>
> DaveF
>
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