[Talk-GB] Tagging of private parking in gardens

[Robert Skedgell]

On 04/01/2023 10:43, Peter Neale via Talk-GB wrote:
> This strikes me as an issue for the renderer to address.
> 
> As I understand it:
> 
> 1.  Mappers are correctly mapping (in some cases, at least) the 
> existence of private parking spaces and taging these with "access=private".
> 
> 2.  The fact that Carto is then rendering these with a pale "P" is 
> leading (some) map users to think that they are public parking spaces.

I think rendering a private car park (amenity=parking + parking=surface 
+ access=private) with a pale P should be fine, although perhaps it 
should be red for no|private and blue for customers|permissive? An 
alternative would be to keep the pale grey shading, but only render the 
P where access is not no|private.

If another RFC for parking tags comes up, I will suggest adding 
parking=driveway if it is within scope.

For any of this to have much effect relies on the OSM Carto maintainers 
being convinced that it is worth doing, which may be far harder than 
getting a tagging proposal accepted and on the wiki.

Some further revision of parking tags is probably needed, as the current 
version insists that resident parking is *always* private rather than 
permit:
 > (don't use permit, since this does not match our OSM definition:
 > A resident parking permit is not "routinely granted to everyone
 > requesting it".

This is certainly true for exclusive resident parking bays within 
housing developments.

For street parking within a residential parking zone, it's nonsense:
* Parking is allowed by default outside operating hours, without a fee. 
Operating hours can be as little as Mo-Fr 10:00-12:00, which prevents 
commuter parking but little else.
* Residents have an allocation of visitor permits, which are "routinely 
granted to anyone requesting it".

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Street_parking