[Talk-ht] Evolving street names?
Jerry Clough - OSM
sk53_osm at yahoo.co.uk
Fri Jan 29 21:56:08 GMT 2010
My general rule has been to use DMA names as they are verifiable. Some names have been sourced from MINUSTAH maps which are more recent, but in the absence of a source:name tag I would be sceptical that the information is any more accurate that the DMA gazetteer. Of course it is a good idea to check..
I've just found an area where quite a few names had shortened first parts: e.g., Rte for Route and R. presumably for Rue, but possibly also for Ruelle. This may be a feature of MINUSTAH names.
W.r.t to Frederik's point the are quite a number of names where there may exist both Rue and Impasse, sometimes co-located, at other times in different parts of the city. One example is Mangones which featured in an Ushahidi report, and represents two roads in very different locations.
Cross-checking OSM against MINUSTAH may help, particularly if there are shapefiles for the latter data available (check the geocommons site).
The wiki page has space for adding comments against any of the remaining road names. Its probably useful to note this type of problem/ambiguity so that its a bit more obvious than in a note tag or through viewing a way's history.
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From: David Fawcett <david.fawcett at gmail.com>
To: talk-ht at openstreetmap.org
Sent: Fri, 29 January, 2010 19:54:15
Subject: [Talk-ht] Evolving street names?
In trying to clean up the last of the PaP streets, I am finding
examples of Ruelle X from the DMA topo, but in OSM, it is now Rue X.
There is no source listed for the data, so I can't verify which is
correct. Do 'little ruelle' grow up to be 'big rue' over 15 years or
so?
I could change it to match the DMA Topo, but that is pretty old.
David.
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 8:45 AM, Brad Neuhauser
<brad.neuhauser at gmail.com> wrote:
> That brings up a question I've had during this project but never seen
> an answer to: how do you include accented characters? Thanks, Brad
>
>
>>
>> Port-au-Prince street names. Since early this week several of us have been
>> checking street names against the DMA maps, and have now reduced the
>> outstanding unresolved names to just over 100. The task is becoming
>> increasingly involved and, I think, now requires a good OSM background. Once
>> again cross-checking that names have not accidentally been entered in
>> incorrect locations is needed (a common problem because 6 and 8 were easily
>> confused on the map scans). Many names could be improved by restoring
>> missing accents.
>>
>> Level 3 administrative boundaries (pcode level3) have been imported for the
>> main areas affected by the 'quake (all of Sud-Est and most of Ouest
>> departments). I have refrained from adding the others for now because
>> processing data imported from shape files is still manually intensive and
>> very prone to break things which already work. I do not know if pcode:3 tags
>> have been set for minor places (hamlets, villages and localities). However,
>> if this would be regarded as useful the data can be loaded quite quickly:
>> although EdLoach won't thank me for it.
>>
>> Cemeteries, graveyards etc. I miss any idea on the status of mapping
>> cemeteries, and note that the placename Titanyen where many news media have
>> reported the location of mass graves is missing from OSM.
>>
>> Just my two penn'orth,
>>
>> Jerry
>> SK53 on OSM
>>
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