[Talk-hu] Entrance signs - ref, addr:flats, ref:signed=no tags

[Feri Veres]

Hi Mateusz and everyone,

2022. 06. 30. 13:35 keltezéssel, Mateusz Konieczny írta:
> To confirm things:
> 
> Lets say there is:
> 
>  > ???? Street 4-6. Building A, Staircase A
> 
> with entrance=main that is without addr:housenumber
> 
> Would it be acceptable to add ref=A to entrance=main in such case?
> 
> Or would it be considered as invalid/unwanted?

It is valid and good. But I think this is rare. There are 447 nodes that 
have entrance + ref in Hungary (OverPass). If it's a "special case" (as 
Attila referred to it), then I think StreetComplete should not ask users 
to specify it at every entrance.

>  > https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1419165875 
> 
> So in Hungary staircase code is considered as part of a housenumber?
> In all cases? Only same?
> 
> (for example in Poland it would not be)


No, staircase code is not considered as part of the house number. But 
most staircases have their own house number! Attila listed some cases 
that are different, but I think a separated postal address for each 
staircase is more common.

Either a there is a different number, or same number with a letter 
component. But this is still a house number ("19/b") in Hungary. We have 
mainly 3 types of house numbers:

1
1/a  (e.g. when one plot is later split to more houses)
1-5  (e.g. when one long house takes the place of previously 1,3,5 
numbered plots)

(Some OSM tools hate this "1-5", but we cannot do anything, this is 
official house number (and thus postal address) in Hungary.)

Hope that makes it clearer. That also makes Polish style "range of 
flats" list unnecessary, because if you tell 'I live in 19/b (house 
number)' then that is the entrance to search for.

I hope we are not confusing you Mateusz. :)

Attila: if those are "special cases" then why would StreetComplete App 
need to ask users to specify them? But you are right that we cannot 
really decide this from just personal experiences of two mappers. :) 
Some statistics would be better...

Best regards,
Feri
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