[OSM-talk-ie] Query on tracing townlands and dealing with changed lake levels and new boundaries

[Donal Diamond]

You can check the online 1901 townland index (there is also a 1911
supplement at same site) and see Beggerin Island is listed:

http://www.histpop.org/ohpr/servlet/PageBrowser?path=Browse/Census%20%28by%20date%29/1901/Ireland&active=yes&mno=453&tocstate=expandnew&display=sections&display=tables&display=pagetitles&pageseq=158

Inishfale/Inisfale is probably a townland as ARP and boundary is listed on
the map sheets - it must be an omission from the townland indexes?

D


D


On 15 May 2015 at 22:44, Killian Driscoll <killiandriscoll at gmail.com> wrote:

> I can't see the orig OS maps here
> http://maps.openstreetmap.ie/oocmaps.html
> for the Beggerin Island area. Are they available?
>
> Killian Driscoll
> Banting Postdoctoral Fellow
> Département d'anthropologie
> Université de Montréal
>
> umontreal.academia.edu/KillianDriscoll
> www.lithicsireland.ie
> ca.linkedin.com/in/killiandriscoll
>
> On 15 May 2015 at 17:36, Killian Driscoll <killiandriscoll at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I guess the point is 'Inishfale Island' was never an official townland
> (at
> > least the name doesn't turn up on the online databases, I don't have
> access
> > to the print copy): the sites and monuments record uses 'Inisfale Island'
> > as the name. Is/was Beggerin Island a townland?
> >
> > Killian Driscoll
> > Banting Postdoctoral Fellow
> > Département d'anthropologie
> > Université de Montréal
> >
> > umontreal.academia.edu/KillianDriscoll
> > www.lithicsireland.ie
> > ca.linkedin.com/in/killiandriscoll
> >
> > On 15 May 2015 at 17:25, Donal Diamond <donal.diamond at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 15 May 2015 at 20:49, Killian Driscoll <killiandriscoll at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> > At the SW side of Lough Allen the pre-drainage scheme lake level
> >> contained
> >> > an island called Inishfale Island with the townland of Derrynadooey to
> >> the
> >> > west. This contains a national monument RO002-028 (
> >> > http://webgis.archaeology.ie/NationalMonuments/FlexViewer/) which is
> >> > listed
> >> > as townland: Inishfale Island; you can see that the map the national
> >> > monuments is using respects the pre-drainage shoreline townland
> outline.
> >> > The traced townland on the osm
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=54.0715&mlon=-8.0517#map=16/54.0715/-8.0517
> >> > of Derrnadooey now subsumes Inishfale Island, so the official sites
> and
> >> > monuments record (which was incorrect, as there is no such townland as
> >> > Insihfale Island) now conflicts with the townland name provided by
> osm.
> >> >
> >>
> >> This is resolvable  -  the island still exists as a townland.
> >>
> >> What you do is:
> >>
> >> 1) Create 'Inishfale Island' townland as normal (with way(s) as role
> >> outer)
> >> 2) add the way(s) of 'Inishfale Island' to Derrnadooey with role inner,
> >> this creates a hole in Derrnadooey
> >>
> >> For example here's Beggerin Island which was an island before  drainage
> >> created the Slobs in Wexford
> >>
> >> http://www.townlands.ie/wexford/shelmaliere-east/north-west-slob/
> >> http://www.townlands.ie/wexford/shelmaliere-east/beggerin-island/
> >>
> >> Hope this helps
> >>
> >> D
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Talk-ie mailing list
> >> Talk-ie at openstreetmap.org
> >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie
> >>
> >
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Talk-ie mailing list
> Talk-ie at openstreetmap.org
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie
>