[OSM-talk-ie] Fortnight of....

Donie Kelly donie.kelly at gmail.com
Fri Feb 5 12:47:34 UTC 2016


OK, I’ll try again. 

Donie

> On 5 Feb 2016, at 12:41, Daniel Cussen <dan at post.com> wrote:
> 
>> They are actually easy to map but it’s just getting people to do it.
> 
> Having actually mapped them, they are not so easy. Normally the most
> dangerous roads in the country, many busy back roads, some are missing
> signs, have signs that do not match the locations suggested, it is
> dangerous and difficult. The NI signs are somewhat secret but can be
> found. I would recommend exhausting the garda option first, try
> sending a letter and see do you get a response. Also the site is more
> likely to have up to date zones before they are even signed. If we
> could get long term agreement the data points are easily imported.
> 
> On 05/02/2016, Donie Kelly <donie.kelly at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I tried getting info from the Guards last year at some stage and got zero
>> response. The zones also changed this year so they require updating manually
>> anyway to bypass the lag that will inevitably happen if we are looking for
>> official data.
>> 
>> They are actually easy to map but it’s just getting people to do it.
>> 
>> Donie
>> 
>>> On 5 Feb 2016, at 12:09, Daniel Cussen <dan at post.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I looked at this a few years ago and started some work. I was
>>> interested in using OSMAND as the app for android as it has inbuilt
>>> support and a sat nav. I manually mapped a few zones and was waiting
>>> for OSMAND to update their data. I also manually took the start and
>>> end locations of zones, mostly on paper and I think I have about 50
>>> zones nationwide. I passed 3 vans on 1 day!
>>> 
>>> My plan was to map them and ask for others to fill in the blanks.
>>> Since then I have been distracted with other projects. The data is on
>>> the garda.ie site. On the site it says all data is theirs. On a couple
>>> of occasions we emailed asking could we use the data but got no
>>> definite answer. They also changed some of the zones a few years ago.
>>> There is an ordinance survey paper road map with them marked. The
>>> quickest would be to get garda approval (some sat navs have them) or
>>> else to accurately collect them.
>>> 
>>> Note some speed vans owned by the gardai can set up anywhere while
>>> others are limited to the zones.
>>> 
>>> I would recommend ringing the Gardai and asking.
>>> 
>>> On 05/02/2016, Donie Kelly <donie.kelly at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I was hoping to open source an iOS app to the github page at some stage
>>>> which would show and warn you when driving in a speed camera zone. It
>>>> would
>>>> be pulling the data from OSM… if it was there…
>>>> 
>>>> That’s not a huge project but requires both the zone and the maxspeed to
>>>> be
>>>> available for it to work.
>>>> 
>>>> Would you consider that? The data is not available anywhere as I’ve tried
>>>> to
>>>> get it but it’s not forthcoming.
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