[OSM-talk-ie] Bar v pub
Nick Burrett
nick at sqrt.co.uk
Thu Jun 22 13:53:48 UTC 2017
A lot of the description in this'll link aligns with mystery expectations
of bar vs pub
http://www.diffen.com/difference/Bar_vs_Pub
On 22 Jun 2017 15:47, "Colm Donoghue" <colm.donoghue at gmail.com> wrote:
> I'd say most pubs (public houses) in Ireland would have a bar and a
> lounge(both rooms)
>
> But even still the lounge would have a bar(a counter)where you ordered
> drinks
>
> Or I was told the bar was the brass bar often placed on the customer side
> of the counter
>
> The 2 harbour bars I drink in have a lounge also.
>
> It's very fluid and ambiguous
>
>
> Colm
>
> On Thu, 22 Jun 2017, 13:51 Alan Grant, <alangrant72 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Let me start by introducing myself as I have not posted on talk-ie
> before.
> > I am Irish but live abroad and generally follow the Spanish (talk-es)
> > mailing list.
> >
> > There is a rather intense debate taking place at the moment on talk-es
> (31
> > posts and still going) about whether a typical Spanish neighbourhood bar
> > should be tagged as amenity=bar, pub, or cafe. Some participants seem to
> > assume that the bar-pub distinction is clearly defined in English (and
> > specifically in the English OSM wiki) and that the issue is how to map
> that
> > distinction to Spain.
> >
> > I am posting here because I wondered about whether Irish mappers do in
> fact
> > think this distinction is well-defined and useful. It seems to me that in
> > Ireland at least we often use "pub" and "bar" almost interchangeably -
> > hence pub names such as "The Harbour Bar". Looking at the wiki some of
> the
> > criteria seem rather vague or of doubtful relevance - should it matter to
> > the definition of an amenity if the building that houses it happens to be
> > modern or purpose-built? What about the suggestion that food is normally
> > available in pubs - I seem to remember that when I was young many pubs
> > served little more in the way of food than packets of crisps, does that
> > mean they were then bars but have become pubs as they diversified into
> > serving food to the lunchtime crowd?
> >
> > From taginfo the pub tag vastly outnumbers the bar tag in Ireland.
> Looking
> > at places tagged as bar, many of them do not seem much different to their
> > neighbours tagged as pubs as far as I can see.
> >
> > I suppose I am really asking out of curiosity rather than with any
> definite
> > aim, but any thoughts would be welcome.
> >
> > Alan
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