[OSM-talk-ie] Electoral district query

[Andrew McCarthy]

Hi Brian,

Thanks for that. I've managed to find that there's a Kilmanahan ED with 
the two townlands in it in the 1891 census, and it's gone by 1901. The 
size of Kilmacomma grows by approximately the right amount in the mean time.

I'll put a note on Kilmanahan ED (I'm not sure there's any useful 
tagging for this situation?) and adjust Kilmacomma to encompass the 
area, unless anybody has any objection.

Cheers,

Andrew

On 02/02/2024 15:14, Brian Hollinshead wrote:
> Hello,
> I sent a photo this morning of the following data but have just heard it
> requires moderation.
>
> Clonmel Union / Superintendent Registrars District 1885, all in County
> Waterford,  includes:
>
> St Mary's Registrars District which includes 3 EDs
>
> Kilmacomma ED
>
> St Mary's ED
>
> Kilmanahan ED which has an area of 1006. Population of 145  (1881 perhaps?)
> including
>
> In the Barony of Glenahery
> and in the Parish of Inishlounaght the townland of Kilnamack West.
> and in the Parish of Kilronan the townland of Kilmanahan
>
> Source Townlands in Poor Law Unions by George B Handron compiled from a
> series of bulletins held in National Library Dublin. Clonmel is number 48
> page 138, dated June 1885.
>
> Townlands.ie shows ED. acerage  as 1002 acres. not sure which type of acres
> were used by both sources.
>
> Perhaps around 1924 the ED of Saint Marys  along with Ballymacarberry and
> and Kilsheelan were transferred from Clonmel PLU to Waterford PLU!!
>
> Best I can do
>
> On Fri, 2 Feb 2024 at 11:13, Donal Hunt <donal.hunt at openstreetmap.ie> wrote:
>
>> I believe you would want to change the tags of the historical ED so the
>> data is still there but not used as an active ED. It's useful having the
>> historical EDs available so changes over time are viewable.
>>
>> Brian (CCed) is a guru when it comes to boundaries (incl. historical
>> boundaries).
>>
>> Donal
>>
>> On Fri 2 Feb 2024, 10:59 Andrew McCarthy, <me at andrewmccarthy.ie> wrote:
>>
>>> Morning,
>>>
>>> I've come across a small electoral district on the map in Waterford,
>>> Kilmanahan <https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/10182628>, containing
>>> two townlands, but I'm not able to find this ED listed anywhere else.
>>> Both townlands (Kilmanahan
>>> <https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/5639936> and Kilnamack West
>>> <https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/5639938>) are listed in the 1901
>>> index on histpop.org¹ as belonging to Kilmacomma
>>> <https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/6740920>, an adjacent ED.
>>>
>>> Is there somewhere else this Kilmanahan ED could have come from, or am I
>>> safe to delete it and extend Kilmacomma to cover those two townlands?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Andrew
>>>
>>> ¹Histpop links: Kilmanahan
>>> <
>>> http://www.histpop.org/ohpr/servlet/PageBrowser?path=Browse/Census%20(by%20date)/1901/Ireland&active=yes&mno=453&tocstate=expandnew&display=sections&display=tables&display=pagetitles&pageseq=603&zoom=3>,
>>>
>>> Kilnamack West
>>> <
>>> http://www.histpop.org/ohpr/servlet/PageBrowser?path=Browse/Census%20(by%20date)/1901/Ireland&active=yes&mno=453&tocstate=expandnew&display=sections&display=tables&display=pagetitles&pageseq=608&zoom=3
>>>> .
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