[Talk-in] Classification of Indian places

[Warin]

I too, have raised this same subject on the Australian list and I have 
seen it raised on the UK list with regards to Scotland.

I think the population being used to determine the OSM place 
classification works well as a first iteration.
What is being determined here is not the official, legal determination 
of a place but rather the 'importance' of a place to the locals or a 
traveller.
That 'importance' is a reflection of the services you expect to find 
there - hospital/s, doctor/s, police, shop/a diversity of shops etc.
Those services are usually directly reflected by the population, where 
it falls down is when a place is
a) remote - thus it becomes more 'important' as it is the sole source of 
services to a much larger area
b) dense - thus the population gets reduced by the neighbouring places 
'taking' some of the population as their own. And some services being in 
an adjacent place.

Some on the Australian list say that they take the services as the 
indication of the type of 'place' that it is. I think that the vast 
majority of places fit well with the population based classification 
system.
However for remote areas I think that the population required can be 
reduced in proportion to the density of the total population (over a 
very large area). This would work for the remote areas of Australia, the 
Sahara, far eastern Russia, etc
For India ... I am not local so cannot judge. But I'd try to stick with 
the population based judgement. This gets away from any political 
effects that can be had. For example Perth, Scotland was a city untill 
some acts against the crown ruler .. the crown acted by removing the 
city title from Perth.

On 8/25/2016 5:06 PM, I Chengappa wrote:
> I continue to oppose the proposal at 
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/India:Places 
> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/India:Places> because it can lead 
> to classifications that are significantly different from common usage. 
> Hence it will make the map less useful to users. For instance the 
> proposal that the classification of 'village' should be used only for 
> panchayats will often promote a smaller settlement and hide larger 
> settlements. There will also be a disparity in usage across the country.
>
> There is an adequate classification at 
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:place which accords largely 
> with common usage.
>
> The government classification could however be attached to the node 
> (or the boundary if available) with a specific key that reflects its 
> administration status - e.g. GOIClassification=xxx.
>
> On 22 August 2016 at 16:36, Yogesh K S <yogesh at itforchange.net 
> <mailto:yogesh at itforchange.net>> wrote:
>
>     Bringing this back again since there was no clear acceptance on the
>     classification of Indian places[1] from last discussion some years
>     back[2]. I can see that many small towns are tagged as cities in some
>     states[3]. And the List of Cities in India entry on enwiki is by
>     population which seems to be incomplete[4].
>
>     If there is a lack of consensus on classification proposal made on the
>     OpenStreetMap wiki India page, we can discuss or else use the same as
>     accepted one.
>
>
>     [1]https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/India:Places
>     <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/India:Places>
>     [2]https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-in/2012-May/thread.html
>     <https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-in/2012-May/thread.html>
>     [3]http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/hYb <http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/hYb>
>     [4]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/en:List_of_cities_in_India
>     <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/en:List_of_cities_in_India>
>
>
>
>     --
>     yogi
>
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