[Talk-ko] Highway labeling

Sun Sep 27 06:34:39 BST 2009

Hi everyone.

I am Mr Han and wrote Ko:Map Feature first in Korean.
저는 Mr Han이며, Ko:Map Feature를 처음으로 한국어로 작성하였습니다.

You have to know that there have been no discussion about kinds of roads of
Korea. Ko:Map Feature is edited by me and other korean but public discussion
have not beed made. Korea section of Key:highway may made by the man who
don't know Korean road well in my thought.
먼저 알아두어야 할 사실은 한국의 도로 종류에 대해서 논의가 이루어졌던 적은 없습니다. Ko:Map Feature는 저와 다른 이들이
수정을 하였지만, 공식적인 논의가 없었습니다. Key:highway의 한국 부분은 한국의 사정을 잘 모르는 사람에 의해서 만들어진 것으로
보입니다.

Anyway, this is first public discussion about the type of road in Korean.
어쨌든 이 글이 한국의 도로 종류에 대한 첫번째 논의입니다.

1, 2 and 3 of Andrew's category is resonable and inter-city way in Korea.
It's same as Intercity section in Ko:Map Feautre. Everybody agree the
category.
Anderew의 1,2,3 분류는 합리적이며, 한국의 도로간 도로에 대항합니다. Ko:Map Feature의 Inter-City 부분과
동일합니다. 누구나 해당 구분에 대해서는 이견이 없을 것으로 보입니다.

Andrew's category of 4 and below may be intra-city road and is not proper.
For example, JongRo may have 10 lane or more, but it is categorized with
"secondary". Most local way(2 of Andrew's category) is "primary" and have 2
lanes. OSM render that primary is bigger than secondary. It may makes
problems.
Anrdrew의 분류 중 4 이하는 약간의 문제가 될 수 있습니다. 예를 들어, 종로는 10차선 이상이지만, "Secondray"로
분류됩니다. 대부분의 지방도는 "primary"이지만, 2차선 정도죠. OSM에서는 Primary가 Secondary보다 크게
렌더링됩니다. 문제가 될 수 있는 부분이죠.

I agree that 1,2,3 is proper, but 4 and below need discussion.
결론을 내리자면, 1,2,3의 분류는 동의합니다만, 4이하에 대해서는 약간의 논의가 더 필요합니다.

Have a nice weekend.
주말 잘 보내시기 바랍니다.

On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 11:31 AM, Andrew Errington <
a.errington at lancaster.ac.uk> wrote:

> On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 17:31:00 Jeffrey Martin wrote:
> > Hi.
> >
> > Thanks for the invitation.
> >
> > I haven't worked on my Korea data in a long while. I have lots of tracks
> > and notes that need to be made into maps.
> >
> > I am concerned about the best way to label the different kinds of
> highways.
>
> Hi Jeffrey (and everyone),
>
> I, too, am a little confused about this, and I want to do the Right Thing.
>
> I was hoping for a few more subscribers before we started discussing
> important
> matters, but I'll go with what we have.  There are 7 members on this list.
> If you know of anyone else mapping in Korea, please encourage them to sign
> up.
>
> Road classification is mentioned here:
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Ko:Map_Features
>
> and here:
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway
> (about 3/4 down the page)
>
> I would appreciate it if a Korean speaker could please translate the
> Ko:Map_Features page into English, or at least add a few English sentences
> to
> explain the reasons behind each road classification choice.  Google
> translate
> does a good job, but it's not *entirely* clear.
>
> Unfortunately these two pages show different information.  For example, the
> Ko:Map_Features page doesn't mention 'trunk' roads, but the Key:highway
> page
> does.
>
> I am originally from the UK, and I studied Ordnance Survey maps in great
> detail for a hobby of mine.  My mapping ideas are affected by this
> experience.
>
> I think we need to clarify the Ko:Map_Features page and add some English
> sentences, and I think we should consider including trunk roads.
>
> In my mapping I have been trying to follow these rules, from the largest to
> the smallest road:
>
> 1.  Main highways or toll roads- motorway
> These should be drawn as two ways, one way in each direction.
>
> 2. Roads with numbers in circles, i.e. (3) (24) (26) - trunk
> Looking at the map of all of Korea there seems to be inconsistency here.  I
> suggest that all roads labelled with circles should be trunk.
>
> 3. Roads with numbers in square boxes [1084] [1089] - primary
> Again, some inconsistency.
>
> I haven't changed the classification of these roads in my local area yet as
> they were already present when I started mapping.
>
>
> 4. Main roads through the town- secondary
> These are generally wide and usually have more than one lane in each
> direction
>
> 5. Other roads- tertiary
> I use tertiary for smaller roads with a yellow line down the middle, in and
> out of town.
>
> 6. Streets- residential
> In town, smaller roads without a yellow line
>
> 7. Roads- unclassified
> These are non-residential roads with no yellow lines.  I use this
> classification for anything that a car can go on, including the concrete
> roads running through rice fields.
>
> 8. Other roads- service
> This is anything which is not a driveway, parking aisle or alley.  I use
> this
> for muddy tracks alongside a river, for example
>
> service:driveway
> A road into a car park or school grounds
>
> service:alley
> An alley that a car can go down
>
> service:parking-aisle
> Around carparks
>
> footway
> An alley a car can't get through, or any obvious footpath.
>
> Sometimes I am not sure which classification I should use for a road, but
> this
> is a fairly complete summary of what I do.
>
> I have some more questions about tagging things in Korea, but I would like
> to
> keep this thread focused on roads.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Andrew
>
> PS if you are interested, here is where I am mapping:
> http://osm.org/go/54z6I74
>
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