[Talk-ko] Possible border dispute brewing?

[Mikel Maron]

Hi

I was asked by the poster of this thread to act in mediation on this issue. I am happy to do so.

The same issue has been raised to me multiple times after I visited South Korea in May (when I joined this list). Each time I have said the same thing initially, and received no further  response. The first step for dispute mediation in OSM is for those affected to attempt dialogue directly with the other mappers involved; and failing that, the other community involved, if it exists and is active. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Disputes

Has this been tried by anyone? The Japanese OSM community has a mailing list, and the main members are the same that are organizing this year's SOTM. In short, I would expect a reasonable and open response to communication.

Thanks
Mikel

 

* Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron


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> From: Wesley Woo-Duk Hwang-Chung <wesley96 at gmail.com>
>To: "Talk-ko at openstreetmap.org" <Talk-ko at openstreetmap.org> 
>Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 8:07 AM
>Subject: [Talk-ko] Possible border dispute brewing?
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>While I was editing the administrative border for Gyeongsangbuk-do(Gyeongbuk), it came to my attention that a user named kazuchi has removed Dokdo's maritime border. This was noticeable since Dokdo is part of Gyeongbuk.
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>My suspicion is that the user in question is a Japanese. In any case, while I was doing further edits to complete the admin borders for Gyeongbuk, the editor spewed out save errors. Seeing the problem might not be on my end, I checked the relation.
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>To my horror, the very same user decided to outright delete all relations that were related to the maritime border I set up around Dokdo, and then some. Here's the changeset:
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>http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/12829541
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>Basically, this guy had the balls to delete the relations for the admin borders for the entire South Korea, as well as Gyeongbuk, Gangwon, and the Dokdo itself.
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>I was able to restore the data up to the previous saved point for now, but some progress on Gyeongbuk has been lost.
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>I fear that this may not be the end of the story, as the Japanese government has sharply increased the rhetoric on the claim that Dokdo(a.k.a. Takeshima) is its territory in the recent weeks as a retaliation against the South Korean president visiting the island. I've seen similar instances of vandalism on Wikipedia already.
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>The problem has been reported to OSM's mediator, but I'm not sure if that would do any good if this ever escalates.
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>I realize that many of you who are doing map edits on South Korea are of foreign nationality. So I can't simply ask you to just take my side, but I think everyone should know what's going on. At the least, please help restore data points that are supposed to be unrelated to these spats if they ever get deleted like this.
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>Thank you.
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>- Wesley (OSM: Namuori)
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