[Talk-ko] DAUM as a source

Wesley Woo-Duk Hwang-Chung wesley96 at gmail.com
Fri Oct 19 07:26:11 GMT 2012


I checked the reverted data now, and it's back when the Japanese users
tampered with it. The following need to be fixed like this:

http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/1204196634/history

This node should revert to version 1.

http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/1204196646/history

This node should revert to version 3.

http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/1275586993/history

This node should be deleted.

These changes should put the data back to the point before Japanese users
such as "takeshima" started tampering with the area.

나의 iPhone에서 보냄
Wesley (OSM: Namuori)

2012. 10. 19. 14:27 Paul Norman <penorman at mac.com> 작성:

It’s CC BY-SA and not ODbL compatible. There’s the additional problem that
it appears to be derived on a map from a South Korean maritime survey
institution and a map published by dkbnews, so even if the author gave
permission it’s not all his work.



I think there’s a previous less accurate version of the coastline in the
history but I’m having trouble finding it. If I can find it, I’ll restore
that. It might take a couple of days before I can find it – retrieving
history is somewhat of a pain. The area has gone through a **lot** of edits
deleting and restoring objects.



I did restore the ferry route tagging.



*From:* Wesley Woo-Duk Hwang-Chung
[mailto:wesley96 at gmail.com<wesley96 at gmail.com>]

*Sent:* Thursday, October 18, 2012 10:00 PM
*To:* Talk-ko at openstreetmap.org
*Subject:* Re: [Talk-ko] DAUM as a source



According to sanha, he doesn't read mailing lists, and he doesn't want to
get into too much legal rambling.



The .osm file sanha made to replace the Daum-sourced map is based on this
map:



http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/File:Dokdo_zoomin.png



The legal information is there in English. Would this be made to be
compatible with ODbL?

The "spirit" seems to be, at least to me. Sadly, according to sanha, the
creator is hard to get in contact with.



How should we go about this?



나의 iPhone에서 보냄

- Wesley (OSM: Namuori)


2012. 10. 19. 12:36 Changwoo Ryu <cwryu at debian.org> 작성:

I sent a message explaining those to that mapper.

Actually uploading DAUM data to OSM is more dangerous in Korea than
you think. All online map services in Korea (even Google map) are
based on data mapped by the government. And those government data
can't be exported without approval by a law. (Well it's because...
north korea and national security.. at least the government think so.)
One who violate that law can be put in jail for up to 2 years.

2012/10/19 Paul Norman <penorman at mac.com>:

Apologies for the message in English, but if I knew Korean I wouldn't need

to send it.



The DWG was informed that a Korean mapper

(http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/sanha) had used DAUM as a source.



I'm dealing with redacting the relevant changesets, but the mapper doesn't

speak English and I don't speak Korean so we're communicating through Google

translations.



I was wondering if someone could contact him and explain



- Why DAUM or Google can't be used as sources



and



- How we're on ODbL now, not CC BY-SA



Thanks,



Paul Norman



For the Data Working Group





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