[Talk-ko] DAUM as a source

[Wesley Woo-Duk Hwang-Chung]

On further inspection, I think the old rendition of the islands suffer from
incorrect position and size, and the small islets at the northwestern side
is shown as a terrible artifact. With DWG's permission, I'd like to fix
this and the incorrect data I mentioned below. I'll be depending mostly on
the low-res Bing aerial in order to stay legal (national law or OSM license
wise), but it should be better than what's there right now.

I'll place my nodes and ways without any tags at first, so it doesn't
render on the map. I'll switch over when there's an okay sign.

On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 4:26 PM, Wesley Woo-Duk Hwang-Chung <
wesley96 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I checked the reverted data now, and it's back when the Japanese users
> tampered with it. The following need to be fixed like this:
>
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/1204196634/history
>
> This node should revert to version 1.
>
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/1204196646/history
>
> This node should revert to version 3.
>
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/1275586993/history
>
> This node should be deleted.
>
> These changes should put the data back to the point before Japanese users
> such as "takeshima" started tampering with the area.
>
> 나의 iPhone에서 보냄
> Wesley (OSM: Namuori)
>
> 2012. 10. 19. 14:27 Paul Norman <penorman at mac.com> 작성:
>
> It’s CC BY-SA and not ODbL compatible. There’s the additional problem that
> it appears to be derived on a map from a South Korean maritime survey
> institution and a map published by dkbnews, so even if the author gave
> permission it’s not all his work.
>
>
>
> I think there’s a previous less accurate version of the coastline in the
> history but I’m having trouble finding it. If I can find it, I’ll restore
> that. It might take a couple of days before I can find it – retrieving
> history is somewhat of a pain. The area has gone through a **lot** of
> edits deleting and restoring objects.
>
>
>
> I did restore the ferry route tagging.
>
>
>
> *From:* Wesley Woo-Duk Hwang-Chung [mailto:wesley96 at gmail.com<wesley96 at gmail.com>]
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 18, 2012 10:00 PM
> *To:* Talk-ko at openstreetmap.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Talk-ko] DAUM as a source
>
>
>
> According to sanha, he doesn't read mailing lists, and he doesn't want to
> get into too much legal rambling.
>
>
>
> The .osm file sanha made to replace the Daum-sourced map is based on this
> map:
>
>
>
> http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/File:Dokdo_zoomin.png
>
>
>
> The legal information is there in English. Would this be made to be
> compatible with ODbL?
>
> The "spirit" seems to be, at least to me. Sadly, according to sanha, the
> creator is hard to get in contact with.
>
>
>
> How should we go about this?
>
>
>
> 나의 iPhone에서 보냄
>
> - Wesley (OSM: Namuori)
>
>
> 2012. 10. 19. 12:36 Changwoo Ryu <cwryu at debian.org> 작성:
>
> I sent a message explaining those to that mapper.
>
> Actually uploading DAUM data to OSM is more dangerous in Korea than
> you think. All online map services in Korea (even Google map) are
> based on data mapped by the government. And those government data
> can't be exported without approval by a law. (Well it's because...
> north korea and national security.. at least the government think so.)
> One who violate that law can be put in jail for up to 2 years.
>
> 2012/10/19 Paul Norman <penorman at mac.com>:
>
> Apologies for the message in English, but if I knew Korean I wouldn't need
>
> to send it.
>
>
>
> The DWG was informed that a Korean mapper
>
> (http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/sanha) had used DAUM as a source.
>
>
>
> I'm dealing with redacting the relevant changesets, but the mapper doesn't
>
> speak English and I don't speak Korean so we're communicating through
> Google
>
> translations.
>
>
>
> I was wondering if someone could contact him and explain
>
>
>
> - Why DAUM or Google can't be used as sources
>
>
>
> and
>
>
>
> - How we're on ODbL now, not CC BY-SA
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Paul Norman
>
>
>
> For the Data Working Group
>
>
>
>
>
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Wesley Hwang-Chung
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