[Talk-ko] Questionable imagery

[Max]

Recap:
there is a bunch of (new?) members editing with non licensed vworld as a 
background, essentially making osm a derived work and jeopardizing its 
legality.

Questions:
1. How comes? Where is the source? Is there a Korean blog entry, Naver 
cafe or other site that shows people how to do it? Can we stop it at the 
source? Could someone search this on naver/daum? I could not find it in 
a quick attempt, but there must be a source.

2. Is this Pokemon Go related? Are people adding parks, playgrounds and 
footpaths prdominantly?

3. IMO it's also a problem with the ID editor that is making it too 
easy. There should be at least a warning  message, or maybe even a 
blacklisting of vworld for the custom backround.
I filed this issue: https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/issues/3858

m.

On 2017년 02월 22일 15:19, 최규성 wrote:
> To Whom It May Concern,
>
>
> Hi, everyone. This is an immediate response to Andrew Errington's
> request as noted below.
>
> I'm a member of OSM but not an active mapper yet. Since I was motivated
> to volunteer to be some help to resolve this issue, I want to suggest
> couple of options based on what I've contacted with the responsible
> staff of Vworld service in Korea today.
> *
> *
> *1. Vworld's scope of use*
> - Vworld is a geospatial content web service by SpaceN, which is a
> Korean government-sponsored foundation.
> - After a legal review with lawyers, SpaceN confirmed a decision that
> traced digital data on top of Vworld map service should lie under the
> control of Vworld data license though it may be free of charge.
>
> In this regard, Andrew's suspicion of source image is correct.
>
> *2. How to prevent the Korean mappers from using Vworld*
> - Last week, I had the same case as raised by Robert Helvie. I could
> contact the individual mapper confirming not to use Vworld any longer.
> Upon the circumstances, it would be very difficult to contact every
> individual and to advise the right mapping practice.
> - So, I'd like to take several actions which I can locally do speaking
> in Korean.
> 1) Sending out a message not to use Vworld as a source for OSM mapping
> through OSGeo Korean Chapter member networks.
> 2) Sending out the same message through such social network services as
> Facebook, etc.
> The message will clearly pointing the web page
> of _http://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright_ and its <copyright
> infringement> paragraph.
>
> The above options are short-term actions. But, I also would like to go
> with long-term commitment; building and training the local OSM
> community. In order to support quality OSM mapping, I'm preparing for a
> self-training material. Actually, I'm translating "Mapping with
> OpenStreetMap - Mapping guides by Mapbox"
> at _https://www.mapbox.com/mapping_ . I'm going to upload it at some
> related homepages including OSGeo Korean Chapter's.
>
> It was only last year that I turn my interest toward OPEN world as well
> as OSM. So, I have limited experience with OSM. Please consider this,
> and give me a better idea to resolve the subject issue that Andrew
> Errington concerns.
>
> If anyone has anything else, please comment.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
>
> Kyu-sung Choi, EZMapping (M. +82-10-5414-4374)
>
>
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>     ---------- 전달된 메시지 ----------
>     From: Andrew Errington <erringtona at gmail.com
>     <mailto:erringtona at gmail.com>>
>     To: OpenStreetMap Korea <talk-ko at openstreetmap.org
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>     Cc:
>     Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2017 11:09:58 +0900
>     Subject: Re: [Talk-ko] Questionable imagery
>     Here's another one from user 'Bucketz', using imagery Custom
>     (http://xdworld.vworld.kr:8080/2d/Satellite/201612/{z}/{x}/{y}.jpeg
>     <http://xdworld.vworld.kr:8080/2d/Satellite/201612/%7Bz%7D/%7Bx%7D/%7By%7D.jpeg>)
>
>     Not only is he/she using a source they shouldn't, but they are also
>     screwing up good mapping.
>
>     They have only done 20 edits, 6 days and 4 days ago.  The first 5
>     used Bing and Mapbox, but then he/she introduced xdworld.  I will
>     send a message asking what's up, but I don't know if this mapper is
>     Korean, or what language they use.
>
>     Best wishes,
>
>     Andrew
>