[Talk-ko] Questionable imagery

Wed Feb 22 14:19:56 UTC 2017

To Whom It May Concern,

Hi, everyone. This is an immediate response to Andrew Errington's request
as noted below.

I'm a member of OSM but not an active mapper yet. Since I was motivated to
volunteer to be some help to resolve this issue, I want to suggest couple
of options based on what I've contacted with the responsible staff of
Vworld service in Korea today.

*1. Vworld's scope of use*
- Vworld is a geospatial content web service by SpaceN, which is a Korean
government-sponsored foundation.
- After a legal review with lawyers, SpaceN confirmed a decision that
traced digital data on top of Vworld map service should lie under the
control of Vworld data license though it may be free of charge.

In this regard, Andrew's suspicion of source image is correct.

*2. How to prevent the Korean mappers from using Vworld*
- Last week, I had the same case as raised by Robert Helvie. I could
contact the individual mapper confirming not to use Vworld any longer. Upon
the circumstances, it would be very difficult to contact every individual
and to advise the right mapping practice.
- So, I'd like to take several actions which I can locally do speaking in
Korean.
1) Sending out a message not to use Vworld as a source for OSM mapping
through OSGeo Korean Chapter member networks.
2) Sending out the same message through such social network services as
Facebook, etc.
The message will clearly pointing the web page of
*http://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright
<http://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright>* and its <copyright infringement>
paragraph.

The above options are short-term actions. But, I also would like to go with
long-term commitment; building and training the local OSM community. In
order to support quality OSM mapping, I'm preparing for a self-training
material. Actually, I'm translating "Mapping with OpenStreetMap - Mapping
guides by Mapbox" at *https://www.mapbox.com/mapping
<https://www.mapbox.com/mapping>* . I'm going to upload it at some related
homepages including OSGeo Korean Chapter's.

It was only last year that I turn my interest toward OPEN world as well as
OSM. So, I have limited experience with OSM. Please consider this, and give
me a better idea to resolve the subject issue that Andrew Errington
concerns.

If anyone has anything else, please comment.

Thanks in advance,

Kyu-sung Choi, EZMapping (M. +82-10-5414-4374)

2017-02-21 21:00 GMT+09:00 <talk-ko-request at openstreetmap.org>:

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> ---------- 전달된 메시지 ----------
> From: Andrew Errington <erringtona at gmail.com>
> To: OpenStreetMap Korea <talk-ko at openstreetmap.org>
> Cc:
> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2017 11:09:58 +0900
> Subject: Re: [Talk-ko] Questionable imagery
> Here's another one from user 'Bucketz', using imagery Custom (
> http://xdworld.vworld.kr:8080/2d/Satellite/201612/{z}/{x}/{y}.jpeg)
>
> Not only is he/she using a source they shouldn't, but they are also
> screwing up good mapping.
>
> They have only done 20 edits, 6 days and 4 days ago.  The first 5 used
> Bing and Mapbox, but then he/she introduced xdworld.  I will send a message
> asking what's up, but I don't know if this mapper is Korean, or what
> language they use.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Andrew
>
> On 10 February 2017 at 22:18, Robert Helvie <alimamo at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Kyu-sung,
>>
>> Thanks for the report.
>>
>> Robert
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 10:05 PM, 최규성 <kyusung.choi at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Kyu-sung
>>
>>
>>
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> ---------- 전달된 메시지 ----------
> From: Andrew Errington <erringtona at gmail.com>
> To: OpenStreetMap Korea <talk-ko at openstreetmap.org>
> Cc:
> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2017 15:20:12 +0900
> Subject: Re: [Talk-ko] Questionable imagery
> I found another one:
> User 나린한울: https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/%EB%82%98%EB%A6%B0%ED%95%
> 9C%EC%9A%B8
> Example changeset: https://www.openstreetmap.org/
> changeset/45749791#map=14/36.0315/129.3504
>
> Has this started due to the introduction of Pokemon Go in Korea?  It's
> great to have new mappers, but we can't afford to be using source data that
> is not permitted.  This user probably speaks Korean.  Could someone contact
> him/her?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Andrew
>
> PS I am going through my OSM notes and trying to clear the ones that I can
> edit myself, and also clearing the ones where work has been done.  This is
> why I am noticing these vworld.kr edits.  I am also noticing people
> deleting name:ko tags, which I don't think is a good idea.
>
> On 21 February 2017 at 11:09, Andrew Errington <erringtona at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Here's another one from user 'Bucketz', using imagery Custom (
>> http://xdworld.vworld.kr:8080/2d/Satellite/201612/{z}/{x}/{y}.jpeg)
>>
>> Not only is he/she using a source they shouldn't, but they are also
>> screwing up good mapping.
>>
>> They have only done 20 edits, 6 days and 4 days ago.  The first 5 used
>> Bing and Mapbox, but then he/she introduced xdworld.  I will send a message
>> asking what's up, but I don't know if this mapper is Korean, or what
>> language they use.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>> On 10 February 2017 at 22:18, Robert Helvie <alimamo at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Kyu-sung,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the report.
>>>
>>> Robert
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 10:05 PM, 최규성 <kyusung.choi at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Kyu-sung
>>>
>>>
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