[talk-latam] YouthMappers Chapter @ Panamá University

Mario Frasca mario at anche.no
Mon Dec 7 01:02:55 UTC 2020


Good day to the reader!

I'm escalating this question to the DWG because all other channels did 
not reach any effect.  This is not about an individual, nor a single 
action, it's about YMUP, the YouthMappers Chapter at the University of 
Panama, an organization that regularly provides new potential mappers to 
OSM, as part of their university curriculum.  Very few do stay mappers 
and hardly any ever react to comments on their few changesets.

My goal is **not** to prevent them from editing, but that we build a 
communication channel, stay in contact, and increase both quality of 
initial edits, quality of data left in our database, and percentage of 
chapter members staying with OSM.  Up to now all my attempts have failed 
and we (a couple of OSM editors in Panama, affected by the unpredictable 
editing activity of YMUP) plan to write to the parent institution of the 
Chapter, to inform them of the persistent misbehaviour.

To give some visibility to their activity, I've written the diary page:

https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/mariotomo/diary/395025

I am not sure who's who other than the two mentors (Humberto Smith, 
maradames) and two previous chapter presidents (Karen Martinez, 
Maritza20r).  I do know that the chapter keeps a contact with Esri Panamá.

Maritza20r is the person who offers the most chance of reply when you 
write to her.

Based on their recent edits in Chiriquí and Mariato, I suppose that 
these are the current chapter members: Emilce Mejía, fanny16, Gerald21, 
Jean Felix Guevara, Johan J, Karen Martinez, Karoline1416, Luis Locano, 
maradames, Maríag08, Marianne_pty, Maritza20r, Nwalachosky18, 
RuthEscobar01, Tatianach1.

the most curious changeset I commented:

https://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussion-comments?uid=12196736

these are the comments I provided to the changesets:

Karen Martinez: 
https://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussion-comments?uid=4366434

maradames: 
https://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussion-comments?uid=4366436

Maritza20r: 
https://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussion-comments?uid=4928257

Humberto Smith only provided three buildings in two changeset, I didn't 
consider commenting on that, even if naming a building 
(https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/874435680) "Edificio" isn't something 
you would expect from a mentor.

The most recent complaint we filed against them was started by Mateusz 
Koniecny, who once again documented a failure to comply with the 
Organized Editing Guidelines and wrote to info at youthmappers.org.  We did 
not receive a reply: the only visible action from the YMUP / 
YouthMappers International / HOT was that HOT opened two projects (9851 
and 9852) on top of two areas which I had previously mentioned to the 
YMUP as examples of organized activity, where I had defined two projects 
on the tasking manager gracefully offered by the Colombian OSM chapter. 
I had started experimenting with projects on tareas.openstreetmap.co 
expressly to learn how to help this YMUP chapter, as I wrote to members 
of the YMUP chapter, who never replied.

best regards,

Mario Frasca.




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