[talk-latam] Fwd: [Ticket#2020120710000024] YouthMappers Chapter @ Panamá University

[Mario Frasca]

Hola Latinoamérica!

quiero compartirles el siguiente paso, de que el DWG, en la persona de 
Frederik Ramm, nos informa.

Para no dejar lugar a dudas, quisiera enfatizar que esta medida por el 
DWG es un medio para obtener el resultado deseado y no un objetivo 
logrado. El objetivo es asegurar la integración dentro de la comunidad 
OSM del grupo representado por el capítulo YMUP.

espero tengamos pronto buenas noticias,

cordialmente, Mario Frasca



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Subject: 	Re: [Ticket#2020120710000024] YouthMappers Chapter @ Panamá 
University
Date: 	Mon, 7 Dec 2020 14:51:04 +0000
From: 	Data Working Group <data at otrs.openstreetmap.org>
Organization: 	OpenStreetMap
To: 	Mario Frasca <mario at anche.no>



Dear Mario,

I have blocked all accounts with a request to follow the organised 
editing guidelines, respond to comments, and document their 
accounts/activities properly.

Hope this helps,
Frederik Ramm

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- Mario Frasca wrote:
Good day to the reader!

I'm escalating this question to the DWG because all other channels did
not reach any effect.  This is not about an individual, nor a single
action, it's about YMUP, the YouthMappers Chapter at the University of
Panama, an organization that regularly provides new potential mappers to
OSM, as part of their university curriculum.  Very few do stay mappers
and hardly any ever react to comments on their few changesets.

My goal is **not** to prevent them from editing, but that we build a
communication channel, stay in contact, and increase both quality of
initial edits, quality of data left in our database, and percentage of
chapter members staying with OSM.  Up to now all my attempts have failed
and we (a couple of OSM editors in Panama, affected by the unpredictable
editing activity of YMUP) plan to write to the parent institution of the
Chapter, to inform them of the persistent misbehaviour.

To give some visibility to their activity, I've written the diary page:

https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/mariotomo/diary/395025 
<https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/mariotomo/diary/395025>

I am not sure who's who other than the two mentors (Humberto Smith,
maradames) and two previous chapter presidents (Karen Martinez,
Maritza20r).  I do know that the chapter keeps a contact with Esri Panamá.

Maritza20r is the person who offers the most chance of reply when you
write to her.

Based on their recent edits in Chiriquí and Mariato, I suppose that
these are the current chapter members: Emilce Mejía, fanny16, Gerald21,
Jean Felix Guevara, Johan J, Karen Martinez, Karoline1416, Luis Locano,
maradames, Maríag08, Marianne_pty, Maritza20r, Nwalachosky18,
RuthEscobar01, Tatianach1.

the most curious changeset I commented:

https://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussion-comments?uid=12196736 
<https://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussion-comments?uid=12196736>

these are the comments I provided to the changesets:

Karen Martinez:
https://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussion-comments?uid=4366434 
<https://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussion-comments?uid=4366434>

maradames:
https://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussion-comments?uid=4366436 
<https://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussion-comments?uid=4366436>

Maritza20r:
https://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussion-comments?uid=4928257 
<https://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussion-comments?uid=4928257>

Humberto Smith only provided three buildings in two changeset, I didn't
consider commenting on that, even if naming a building
(https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/874435680) 
<https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/874435680)> "Edificio" isn't something
you would expect from a mentor.

The most recent complaint we filed against them was started by Mateusz
Koniecny, who once again documented a failure to comply with the
Organized Editing Guidelines and wrote to info at youthmappers.org.  We did
not receive a reply: the only visible action from the YMUP /
YouthMappers International / HOT was that HOT opened two projects (9851
and 9852) on top of two areas which I had previously mentioned to the
YMUP as examples of organized activity, where I had defined two projects
on the tasking manager gracefully offered by the Colombian OSM chapter.
I had started experimenting with projects on tareas.openstreetmap.co
expressly to learn how to help this YMUP chapter, as I wrote to members
of the YMUP chapter, who never replied.

best regards,

Mario Frasca.