[Talk-lt] wikidata/wikipedia tags

[Aurimas Fišeras]

Hello,
I think that having both tags (wikipedia + wikidata) has more benefits 
than drawbacks.

2022-11-14 11:37, Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-lt rašė:
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> Nov 14, 2022, 09:12 by tomasstraupis at gmail.com:
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>     2022-11-14, pr, 01:27 Simonas Kazlauskas via Talk-lt rašė:
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>         A question worth asking is what purpose does a wikipedia
>         relation serve, that isn’t already handled
>         by the wikidata relation? In particular, my view is that:
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>     All our local (Lithuanian) services (user oriented as well as data
>     checking) use exclusively wikipedia tag and do not use wikidata tag.
>     Wikipedia tag is human readable, easy convertible to actual url
>     therefore more users can check/update/fill that tag.
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>     When checking data I only check wikipedia tag and ignore wikidata.
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>     Wikidata KB is too geeky, it is not presentable to average user.
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> And in terms of benefits of wikidata tags - they are more stable
> and makes easier to fix broken wikipedia tags.
Yes.

> For example, thanks to them it was possible to partially automate
> recovery of wikipedia links after Wikipedia editors decided to
> move bunch of articles without leaving redirects.
> 
> See
> https://matkoniecz.github.io/OSM-wikipedia-tag-validator-reports/Lietuva%20(Lithuania%20-%20Litwa)%20-%20obvious.html#wikipedia%20wikidata%20mismatch%20-%20follow%20wikipedia%20redirect <https://matkoniecz.github.io/OSM-wikipedia-tag-validator-reports/Lietuva%20(Lithuania%20-%20Litwa)%20-%20obvious.html#wikipedia%20wikidata%20mismatch%20-%20follow%20wikipedia%20redirect>
> for cases where such repair is possible in Lithuania as both
> wikipedia and wikidata are tagged, so fixes can be applied
> automatically
I reviewed proposed automatic edits:
  1. wikipedia wikidata mismatch - follow wikipedia redirect:
   * Should be fixed automatically.
  2. wikipedia from wikidata tag, unexpected language:
   * Should be fixed, but with Lithuanian Wikipedia link, if it is 
available. For example, https://openstreetmap.org/node/10009742613 
suggests to add en:Vilnius University Faculty of Communication instead 
of lt:Vilniaus universiteto Komunikacijos fakultetas
  3. wikidata from wikipedia tag:
   * Should be fixed automatically (JOSM wikipedia validator also 
suggests to fix these).
  4. wikipedia tag in an outdated form for removal:
   * Don't know.
  5. wikipedia wikidata mismatch - follow wikidata redirect:
   * Should be fixed automatically.

> (I see that renaming stubs about villages is liked also by
> authors of your Wikipedia, at least they left redirects)