[Talk-ma] noms sur OSM au Maroc

[Mario Frasca]

Hi Frédéric and Ali and everybody else!

On 08/01/2018 07:00 AM, talk-ma-request at openstreetmap.org wrote:
> What it the difference between name:zgh and name:ber, in wich case use 
> them ?
> On the multilingual name, should I reuse name:zgh ? and if not present 
> use name:ber ?
> When only multilingual name is present and I can extract a part in 
> Tamazight/Berber. Which name tag should I propose for this value 
> name:zgh ? event when name:ber is already present ?
>
> Except the zgh is used only in Morocco to define the new standard tamazight and the ber is used in entire North-Africa for the tamazight language both are writen in tifinagh script,for me i was always against the usage of the ber tag we call our language Tamazight no matter if you live in Morocco, Algeria, Libya
> The tag ber is for me deprecated and old insteed why not using the tag tzm?
> It is a debat worth in cooperation with the algerian users

as long as we are only discussing Morocco, I would also suggest using
`name:zgh` and dropping `name:ber`, at least based on what you can see
at https://www.ethnologue.com/country/MA/languages: `zgh` is the
internationally recognized code for Amazighe Standard Marocain.

on the other hand, if you want to include other Berber speaking
countries, and use the same language code all over the places, you meet
the problem that only Morocco has introduced something like a "standard"
Berber language.  if I was from Algeria (main Berber variety: Tachawit,
vigorous, code `shy`), Tunisia (main Berber variety: Shilha, threatened,
code `jbn`), Lybia (main Berber variety: Siwi, vigorous, code `siz`), I
guess I would not want to use a Moroccan standardization, which I guess
didn't take into account non Moroccan language varieties.  it's twice
guessing, so maybe I ended in the opposite conclusion…

anyhow, in this second optics, using the non-existing language code
`ber` does make some sense, even though this is also the strongest
argument against its usage: `ber` is a non-existent language code.

so I suppose you need to involve the other Berber communities in the
decision, or be prepared to use `name:zgh` only within Morocco.

Mario