[Talk-ma] noms sur OSM au Maroc - Osmose-QA

[Frédéric Rodrigo]

Hello

I have mostly rewrite the support of multiple languages for Morocco
The result is now here :
http://osmose.openstreetmap.fr/fr/map/#item=5060&country=morocco

Mainly:
- I add the support of Tamazight with fallback to Berber
- I add the support of only one language in name an on other one into 
name:xx

Please check the result of Osmose analysis and comment if you think 
there are bad results or idea for improvements.

Thank you.

Frédéric.


Le 02/08/2018 à 08:12, Johnparis a écrit :
> I'm not an expert at all in this area, but there is indeed a code 
> "ber" for the Berber language family:
>
> https://iso639-3.sil.org/code/ber
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 2:28 AM, Mario Frasca <mariotomo at gmail.com 
> <mailto:mariotomo at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Hi Frédéric and Ali and everybody else!
>
>     On 08/01/2018 07:00 AM, talk-ma-request at openstreetmap.org
>     <mailto:talk-ma-request at openstreetmap.org> wrote:
>     > What it the difference between name:zgh and name:ber, in wich
>     case use
>     > them ?
>     > On the multilingual name, should I reuse name:zgh ? and if not
>     present
>     > use name:ber ?
>     > When only multilingual name is present and I can extract a part in
>     > Tamazight/Berber. Which name tag should I propose for this value
>     > name:zgh ? event when name:ber is already present ?
>     >
>     > Except the zgh is used only in Morocco to define the new
>     standard tamazight and the ber is used in entire North-Africa for
>     the tamazight language both are writen in tifinagh script,for me i
>     was always against the usage of the ber tag we call our language
>     Tamazight no matter if you live in Morocco, Algeria, Libya
>     > The tag ber is for me deprecated and old insteed why not using
>     the tag tzm?
>     > It is a debat worth in cooperation with the algerian users
>
>     as long as we are only discussing Morocco, I would also suggest using
>     `name:zgh` and dropping `name:ber`, at least based on what you can see
>     at https://www.ethnologue.com/country/MA/languages
>     <https://www.ethnologue.com/country/MA/languages>: `zgh` is the
>     internationally recognized code for Amazighe Standard Marocain.
>
>     on the other hand, if you want to include other Berber speaking
>     countries, and use the same language code all over the places, you
>     meet
>     the problem that only Morocco has introduced something like a
>     "standard"
>     Berber language.  if I was from Algeria (main Berber variety:
>     Tachawit,
>     vigorous, code `shy`), Tunisia (main Berber variety: Shilha,
>     threatened,
>     code `jbn`), Lybia (main Berber variety: Siwi, vigorous, code
>     `siz`), I
>     guess I would not want to use a Moroccan standardization, which I
>     guess
>     didn't take into account non Moroccan language varieties. it's twice
>     guessing, so maybe I ended in the opposite conclusion…
>
>     anyhow, in this second optics, using the non-existing language code
>     `ber` does make some sense, even though this is also the strongest
>     argument against its usage: `ber` is a non-existent language code.
>
>     so I suppose you need to involve the other Berber communities in the
>     decision, or be prepared to use `name:zgh` only within Morocco.
>
>     Mario
>
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