[OSM-NI] mapping bus stops

[Brian Wolford]

Hi Rodrigo,
Actually, both tags should still be kept. "highway=bus_stop" is an old tag
now but it was in use for a long time so when shifting to new tags it is
best to double tag still. Especially since allot of renderers still only
render the "highway=bus_stop" tag. So it is still useful to include the old
tag when tagging new, and definitely don't delete it from older ones. Maybe
in the future when everything is brought in line with public_transport
someone will make a bot to clean the old tags.

The main discussion in the thread has been that
"public_transport=stop_position"
should be tagged on a node on the highway (not unconnected next to it).
And that we should be including the "bus=yes" tag on bus features.

A+
-b



On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 10:32 AM, Rodrigo Rodríguez
<roirobo at ubuntu.org.ni>wrote:

> Reading quickly, if I'm not wrong we should change the "highway=bus_stop"
> tags for a new one: "public_transport=stop_position", right?
>
> Cheers...
>
> Brian Wolford <worldwidewolford at gmail.com> escribió:
>
>> Yes, on the first example it gives to nodes and it adds highway=bus_stop
>> to the node on the way.
>> Example one on the way:
>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/984783569
>> and next to the way:
>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1065121311
>>
>> I think this good as the way to go forward with this, especially since we
>> focus mainly on mapping the points on the way
>> (public_transport=stop_position). Especially since this is how the creator
>> of the public_transport envisioned including it.
>>
>> highway=bus_stop is not that critical of a tag itself, because it has
>> been replaced by the public_transport tags. But it is still useful as it
>> renders on the map and including it allows older software which hasn't been
>> updated to new tags to use it, as well.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 1:34 PM, Eduardo Mayorga Téllez <
>> mayorgalinux at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 11 December 2013 12:26, Brian Wolford <worldwidewolford at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Hello,
>>> > We were discussing tonight which is the proper way to map bus stops
>>> for the
>>> > bus line mapping, node on the way or beside the way. After looking at
>>> the
>>> > public_transport page there were some things I wanted to share.
>>> > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Public_Transport
>>> > Useful:
>>> >
>>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Public_Transport#Examples
>>> >
>>> > If mapping public_transport=stop_position they should be a node ON the
>>> way.
>>> > As it is a feature of the vehicle stopping on the road.
>>> >
>>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:public_transport%3Dstop_position
>>> >
>>> > If you want to map the place where people wait that is mapped as
>>> > public_transport=platform on a node BESIDE the way.
>>> > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:public_transport%3Dplatform
>>>
>>> What about highway=bus_stop? Should we use this tag for the node on
>>> the road or where the passengers wait? The wiki is not clear about
>>> this.
>>>
>>> Here the use of the tag for the place where passengers wait is
>>> recommended: [
>>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:public_transport%3Dstop_area]
>>>
>>> And at the examples section of
>>> [http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Public_Transport]
>>> you see that it's used on the road (by noting the blue "icon" on the
>>> map).
>>>
>>> > public_transport=stop_position is the more relevant tag to getting the
>>> bus
>>> > lines mapped, I feel, and should be given priority, but both are
>>> useful.
>>> >
>>> > Also, we should be including bus=yes when using the public_transport
>>> scheme
>>> > to map bus features, which Iǘe edited the wiki page to reflect.
>>> >
>>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Nicaragua/Buses_en_Managua/Relaciones
>>> >
>>> > Thoughts?
>>> > -Brian
>>>
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