[OSM-talk-nl] status of (governement) street data in NL
Floris Looijesteijn
osm at floris.nu
Fri Mar 23 15:25:28 UTC 2007
----- Original Message -----
From: "Remco van Zuijlen" <remcovz at xs4all.nl>
To: "OpenStreetMap NL discussion list" <talk-nl at openstreetmap.org>
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 4:21 PM
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk-nl] status of (governement) street data in NL
> On Fri, Mar 23, 2007 at 03:59:41PM +0100, Zoran Kovacevic wrote:
>> I called GVI (http://www.gvi.amsterdam.nl/) after Ante/. They map almost
>> everything there is to map in Amsterdam very accurately and regularly.
>> Parts of their data is bought (?) from electricity & water companies,
>> which makes it hard to 'give away'. They told me that GBKN
>> (http://www.gbkn.nl/) takes care of the whole of NL, except for
>> Amsterdam and some other cities that prefer to do it by themselves.
>>
>> So I talked to GBKN. We had in interesting talk (did you know that
>> different parts of Dutch government - until very recently - sent bills
>> to each other for the use of their geo-data?). He told me that
>> Rijkswaterstaat (a.k.a. RWS: department responsible for roads/bridges in
>> NL) has a database called Nationale Wegenbestand (NWB). They are
>> planning on opening this database (initially interdepartmental, but he
>> also mentioned general public). There were some obvious objections to
>> this plan by TeleAtlas and the likes, but since RWS is the sole owner of
>> the data, it should be possible.
>>
>> Good news: the NWB database consists of each and every street in the
>> Netherlands!
>>
>> I am now trying to circumvent the servicedesk of the subdepartment
>> RWS-AGI (http://www.rws.nl/rws/agi/home/) in order to plea for dumping
>> the NWB data in OSM :) I'll get a call back either today or Monday. I'll
>> keep you posted on any progress.
>
> hey! sounds good.. but, before dumping it into the live database of OSM,
> don't you think it's wiser to dump it to an osm file first that we (and
> the
> osm folks in the UK) can look at first, mess with, render it into nice
> maps,
> etc before we are absolutely sure the data is what we actually want/is
> complete/correct (if you catch my drift) ?
>
of course... i was just looking at
http://www.verkeerenwaterstaat.nl/kennisplein/page_kennisplein.aspx?DossierURI=tcm:195-17870-4&Id=269440
which at the end shows a link to a website where you can download some
test-data from the NWB. And man, it is very cool!
All coordinates, kilometerpaaltjes, names are in there.
>> Just suppose that this works out ... and what it will mean for OSM
>> server load ;)
>
> and one more thing, what are we supposed to do when we get bored? after
> all
> roads are mapped and in OSM? No more mapping parties, gps logging and
> fiddling in JOSM. ;) on the other hand, it's what we strive for after all.
>
lol :)
we can always double-check...
> Remco
>
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