[OSM-talk-nl] maping bus routes, was Re: junction= roundabaout

[Jo]

What already works is giving the stop members a role 'platform', instead of
'stop'. The tags on the stop nodes themselves cannot be converted to
public_transport=platform though, so you have to keep working with
highway=bus_stop and railway=tram_stop. Or use both, but that seems like a
waste of space to me.

The ways in the relation don't need a role. It's just a waste of time to
add them and keep them correct. If there is one long line from the first
stop to the terminus, it's  easy to see whether it's continuous in JOSM's
relation editor, with or without roles.

The stops get added, preferably in order, as the last relation members.

Roundabouts sort of also work in this continuity (they get a special
symbol), but I also prefer to split them, when routes go over them (even
when I'm in Belgium, not Holland). The result is cleaner and completely
unambiguous.

Polyglot


2012/11/23 Wolfgang Wienke <wo_wienke at gmx.net>

> Am 23.11.2012 14:29, schrieb Cartinus:
>
>  On 11/23/2012 12:44 PM, Maarten Deen wrote:
>>
>>> On 2012-11-22 21:14, Wolfgang Wienke wrote:
>>>
>>>> Do you accept OXOMOA scheme?
>>>>
>>>
>>> This is the first that I ever hear from that scheme.
>>>
>>
>> Please ignore the original oxomoa scheme when tagging bus routes. There
>> is a reason the scheme sits in someones private wiki-space: It was the
>> first step in a long process that ended here [1].
>>
>> Significant parts of the oxomoa scheme ended up in the final proposal,
>> but parts of it didn't (like the incredibly insane type=line in stead of
>> type=route).
>>
>>
>> On 11/23/2012 12:44 PM, Maarten Deen wrote:
>>
>>> I don't know how it is done outside Limburg, but in Limburg the
>>> relations are IIRC not grouped. I'm also not entirely sure how we
>>> should
>>> group them. In Germany there is a strong grouping in the
>>> Verkehrsverbünde. We don't have that. We do have concessionareas, but
>>> these can be large (Limburg is one concession, run by Veolia) and can
>>> overlap (in Amsterdam, you'll find busses from different concessions).
>>>
>>
>> In the central part of The Netherlands the name of the concession used
>> to be put in the network tag of the relation. I just noticed someone
>> didn't understand "relations are not categories" and created a
>> type=public_transport + public_transport=network relation to group the
>> lines of the concession "BRU stad".
>>
>> Overlapping concessions are not a problem for either the network tag or
>> the network relation, as neither relies on a contiguous geographic area.
>>
>>
>> [1]<http://wiki.openstreetmap.**org/wiki/Public_Transport<http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Public_Transport>
>> >
>>
>>  Ok, in future i will use this, mapping separate routes for both
> directions, usung the public_tranport tags.
>
>
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