[OSM-np] Classification of Roads in Nepal

[bibekshrestha at gmail.com]

The following references try to clarify the confusion, but only to some
extent.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:highway%3Dpedestrian#footway_vs_pedestrian
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Path_controversy

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On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 4:54 PM, bibekshrestha at gmail.com <
bibekshrestha at gmail.com> wrote:

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> On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 8:45 AM, Prabhas Pokharel <
> prabhas.pokharel at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Bibek, thanks for making a first draft of this important document. One
>> minor suggestion: should we think of something that is very similar to
>> highway=pedestrian, but streets that are accessible to motorcycles? As we
>> know, there are a lot of places like this in Kathmandu, does dual tagging of
>> highway=pedestrian and motorcyle=yes make sense?
>>
> I think we agree on motorcycle=yes on this but I'm not too sure whether we
> use highway=footway or highway=pedestrian. (Which Sakar mentioned in his
> reply).
>
> I would personally prefer highway=pedestrian for the following criteria.
> a. if the road is as wide enough as a normal road but people use it only
> for walking (usually city centers, squares, etc),
>
> highway=footpath
> b. The narrow gallis and shortcuts which cannot have a car (sth bigger
> than a maruti may be because maruti usually can squeeze in any kind of
> road) move through it. Like the gallis in Bhaktapur or Kathmandu.
>
>
>>
>
>> The trickiest part when tagging that I come across is deciding between
>> highway=residential and highway=living_street Its usually very difficult
>> deciding between the two. You seem to suggest two possibilities: lacking a
>> footpath, or a street intended for two-way transport which cannot fit cars
>> going both directions at the same time. I think if we pick the latter, it
>> will be most appropriate, as even bigger residential streets in many areas
>> of the city lack footpaths, but the determinant of two cards being able to
>> pass each other at any spot of the road seems like an important one in
>> separating classes of roads.
>>
> IMO, a living_street has low volume of traffic and usually have more
> people activities, like mentioned in the wiki, children could be playing in
> the field, or in Nepal, bunch of people gambling or a 24 hours bar (local
> bhatti ;-) ) and people sitting in front in chairs drinking milk tea or
> sth, etc. A highway=residential is more for people just using the road for
> moving from one place to another.
> And yes like you said, two way traffic vs only one car at a time is also a
> nice way to classify the if it is living_street vs residential. Just a
> note, the one way should probably be a result of more human activities
> involved?
>
>>
>> Others on the list, thoughts? If I get no reply, I'll put the motorcycle
>> guidelines in, assuming silence = no dissent :)
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 9:40 PM, bibekshrestha at gmail.com <
>> bibekshrestha at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear All,
>>>
>>> I have done some draft work on guidelines for marking roads of Nepal.
>>> They can be viewed at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nepal:Roads
>>> Most of it is kind of copy paste from the India:Roads page but I've
>>> removed things that do not seem relevant in our context. For instance
>>> Indian roads are classified as NationalExpressways, NationalHighways,
>>> NationalExpressHighways, etc which I don't think we have.
>>>
>>> The classification is not based upon any fixed system, instead it is
>>> built on top of the general guidelines of OSM itself.
>>>
>>> If anyone is willing to verify and further contribute, I would be more
>>> than happy to collaborate on it.
>>>
>>> Warm regards
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>>> Arthur, Inception 2010
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