[OSM-np] Classification of Roads in Nepal

[bibekshrestha at gmail.com]

For living_street vs residential road, the first paragraph here
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dresidential kind of
explains the difference. Atleast the image on the right side does not look
like a living_street.
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Bibek Shrestha
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On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 4:55 PM, bibekshrestha at gmail.com <
bibekshrestha at gmail.com> wrote:

> The following references try to clarify the confusion, but only to some
> extent.
>
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:highway%3Dpedestrian#footway_vs_pedestrian
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Path_controversy
>
> --
> Bibek Shrestha
> bibekshrestha at gmail dot com
> Twitter: http://twitter.com/bibstha
> "You mustn't be afraid to dream a little bigger, darling.", Eames to
> Arthur, Inception 2010
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 4:54 PM, bibekshrestha at gmail.com <
> bibekshrestha at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> --
>> Bibek Shrestha
>> bibekshrestha at gmail dot com
>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/bibstha
>> "You mustn't be afraid to dream a little bigger, darling.", Eames to
>> Arthur, Inception 2010
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 8:45 AM, Prabhas Pokharel <
>> prabhas.pokharel at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Bibek, thanks for making a first draft of this important document. One
>>> minor suggestion: should we think of something that is very similar to
>>> highway=pedestrian, but streets that are accessible to motorcycles? As we
>>> know, there are a lot of places like this in Kathmandu, does dual tagging of
>>> highway=pedestrian and motorcyle=yes make sense?
>>>
>> I think we agree on motorcycle=yes on this but I'm not too sure whether
>> we use highway=footway or highway=pedestrian. (Which Sakar mentioned in his
>> reply).
>>
>> I would personally prefer highway=pedestrian for the following criteria.
>> a. if the road is as wide enough as a normal road but people use it only
>> for walking (usually city centers, squares, etc),
>>
>> highway=footpath
>> b. The narrow gallis and shortcuts which cannot have a car (sth bigger
>> than a maruti may be because maruti usually can squeeze in any kind of
>> road) move through it. Like the gallis in Bhaktapur or Kathmandu.
>>
>>
>>>
>>
>>> The trickiest part when tagging that I come across is deciding between
>>> highway=residential and highway=living_street Its usually very difficult
>>> deciding between the two. You seem to suggest two possibilities: lacking a
>>> footpath, or a street intended for two-way transport which cannot fit cars
>>> going both directions at the same time. I think if we pick the latter, it
>>> will be most appropriate, as even bigger residential streets in many areas
>>> of the city lack footpaths, but the determinant of two cards being able to
>>> pass each other at any spot of the road seems like an important one in
>>> separating classes of roads.
>>>
>> IMO, a living_street has low volume of traffic and usually have more
>> people activities, like mentioned in the wiki, children could be playing in
>> the field, or in Nepal, bunch of people gambling or a 24 hours bar (local
>> bhatti ;-) ) and people sitting in front in chairs drinking milk tea or
>> sth, etc. A highway=residential is more for people just using the road for
>> moving from one place to another.
>> And yes like you said, two way traffic vs only one car at a time is also
>> a nice way to classify the if it is living_street vs residential. Just a
>> note, the one way should probably be a result of more human activities
>> involved?
>>
>>>
>>> Others on the list, thoughts? If I get no reply, I'll put the motorcycle
>>> guidelines in, assuming silence = no dissent :)
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 9:40 PM, bibekshrestha at gmail.com <
>>> bibekshrestha at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear All,
>>>>
>>>> I have done some draft work on guidelines for marking roads of Nepal.
>>>> They can be viewed at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nepal:Roads
>>>> Most of it is kind of copy paste from the India:Roads page but I've
>>>> removed things that do not seem relevant in our context. For instance
>>>> Indian roads are classified as NationalExpressways, NationalHighways,
>>>> NationalExpressHighways, etc which I don't think we have.
>>>>
>>>> The classification is not based upon any fixed system, instead it is
>>>> built on top of the general guidelines of OSM itself.
>>>>
>>>> If anyone is willing to verify and further contribute, I would be more
>>>> than happy to collaborate on it.
>>>>
>>>> Warm regards
>>>> --
>>>> Bibek Shrestha
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>>>> Arthur, Inception 2010
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