[OSM-np] [MapKathmandu] Re: Suspicious edits in some areas in Kathmandu

amrit karmacharya amrit.im at gmail.com
Wed Oct 10 10:42:22 BST 2012 

Do we know the hierarchy of the classification?

On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 3:24 PM, bibekshrestha at gmail.com <
bibekshrestha at gmail.com> wrote:

> There are no tertiary because initially we decided we will avoid it.
> So we'd try to cover the streets inside the city with primary, secondary
> for major streets, residential for normal streets.
> Although, I have seen some discussions earlier regarding tertiary streets,
> for example the ones that run along rivers (bagmati, ...) which cannot be
> classified as primary / secondary nor residential.
> That could be marked as tertiary.
>
> I welcome any suggestions or discussions backed my examples on this.
>
> Cheers
> --
> Bibek Shrestha
> bibekshrestha at gmail dot com
> Twitter: http://twitter.com/bibstha
> "You mustn't be afraid to dream a little bigger, darling.", Eames to
> Arthur, Inception 2010
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 11:21 AM, amrit karmacharya <amrit.im at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> there is no tertiary, trunk, unclassified roads.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 2:45 PM, bibekshrestha at gmail.com <
>> bibekshrestha at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Amrit,
>>>
>>> We had a pretty long discussion among which tags to use for roads in
>>> Nepal and came up with some kind of agreement.
>>> You can check what tags we use here
>>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nepal/Roads
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> --
>>> Bibek Shrestha
>>> bibekshrestha at gmail dot com
>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/bibstha
>>> "You mustn't be afraid to dream a little bigger, darling.", Eames to
>>> Arthur, Inception 2010
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 7:56 AM, amrit karmacharya <amrit.im at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> data quality has always been an issue for any kind of geographic data.
>>>> We need more mappers from different localities for this and need to grow
>>>> our OSM community. But location is only one aspect of data quality,
>>>> attributes provide life to the data. it is also high time to agree on
>>>> standard for object (like roads, hotels, tea shops, co-operatives, tuition
>>>> centers). we should have discussions on these topics.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 1:04 PM, Nama Budhathoki <
>>>> namabudhathoki at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Mappers,
>>>>>
>>>>> It would be good if those who have local knowledge could correct those
>>>>> roads. Leaving incorrect data in OSM for long time will have detrimental
>>>>> effect to our effort. Many people raise questions of data quality in
>>>>> user-contributed data. It is difficult for them to accept that ordinary
>>>>> people can produce amazing maps. If those suspicious minds see these
>>>>> incorrect roads, it will only help them to spread mistrust about the whole
>>>>> dataset.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nama
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 12:01 PM, amrit karmacharya <
>>>>> amrit.im at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> yes, i have been tagging highway=motorway, for those roads which have
>>>>>> 2 lanes and carry much traffic. i have checked these roads in google
>>>>>> satellite images too. as per the common tags used, i thought this was the
>>>>>> best tag to use. if someone feels otherwise, we should have a discussion on
>>>>>> it. i shall revert them back for now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and manoj, as initial part of MapKathmandu project, i have traced
>>>>>> many roads referencing bing and google satellite image. i have also used
>>>>>> the gps traces for accurate positions. I have tried to trace many roads in
>>>>>> baluwatar area as we are doing a mapping party there on  13 oct saturday.
>>>>>> these roads have been traced through satellite imagery only, so i agree
>>>>>> that they are incorrect, and we plan to check and correct it during the
>>>>>> mapping party. i would be very thankful if you could correct them *ASAP
>>>>>> *as it would help the mapping event. I would also like to invite you
>>>>>> to this event. the venue is Biruwa Ventures. we welcome every assistence.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 4:19 AM, Rajeev Amatya <
>>>>>> rajeevamatya at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Would be great if amrit fixed it since he knows these roads better.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> we do not use highway=motorway. Highway=trunk is the best we can go.
>>>>>>> Use of highway=tertiary is being considered/discussed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 12:31 AM, Aashish Tripathee <
>>>>>>> helloworld at aashishtripathee.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Just have a look at this:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=27.7143&lon=85.3224&zoom=14&layers=M
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 4:13 AM, Aashish Tripathee <
>>>>>>>> helloworld at aashishtripathee.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  I've fixed some of them but he had tagged really a lot of roads
>>>>>>>>> with highway=motorway and, so before reverting more back, I wanted to ask,
>>>>>>>>> what sort of roads are to be tagged that way? I mean with highway=motorway?
>>>>>>>>> That isn't even included in the tags for roads of Nepal in the wiki (
>>>>>>>>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nepal/Roads)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 9:13 PM, Rajeev Amatya <
>>>>>>>>> rajeevamatya at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> i think amrit has been mistakenly tagging the roads as
>>>>>>>>>> highway=motorway.
>>>>>>>>>> please fix them asap.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Aashish Tripathee <
>>>>>>>>>> helloworld at aashishtripathee.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On JOSM, please see the author of that. I also mapped Baluwatar
>>>>>>>>>>> region around a month back but not now. Please check who is doing that
>>>>>>>>>>> incorrect mapping in JOSM so that we can contact him/her.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 9, 2012, at 18:06, Manoj Thapa <manoj.thapa at outlook.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> > Dear All,
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> > I am mapping Baluwatar and Maharajgunj area from last few
>>>>>>>>>>> months and i am quite familiar with these areas. From last few days i am
>>>>>>>>>>> happy to see other few friends mapping  on these area as well. Many roads
>>>>>>>>>>> they mapped were wrong and some road are not there in field. I corrected
>>>>>>>>>>> those. but today i find same problem on other areas of Kathmandu. please
>>>>>>>>>>> see light blue roads (motor roads) in image on the attached file. At the
>>>>>>>>>>> mean time, i also noticed that this person is randomly mapping in different
>>>>>>>>>>> areas. How do we check this?
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> > Manoj
>>>>>>>>>>> > <osmOct9.jpg>
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>>>>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Aashish Tripathee*
>>>>>>>>> *Founder Partner*
>>>>>>>>> *Bwingle Web Solutions <http://bwingle.org/>*
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