[OSM-np] [MapKathmandu] Re: Suspicious edits in some areas in Kathmandu
bibekshrestha at gmail.com
bibekshrestha at gmail.com
Wed Oct 10 10:44:45 BST 2012
It's primarily based on personal judgement as there is no strict
classification. Do refer to
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nepal/Roadsfor the description.
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Bibek Shrestha
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On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 11:42 AM, amrit karmacharya <amrit.im at gmail.com>wrote:
> Do we know the hierarchy of the classification?
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 3:24 PM, bibekshrestha at gmail.com <
> bibekshrestha at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> There are no tertiary because initially we decided we will avoid it.
>> So we'd try to cover the streets inside the city with primary, secondary
>> for major streets, residential for normal streets.
>> Although, I have seen some discussions earlier regarding tertiary
>> streets, for example the ones that run along rivers (bagmati, ...) which
>> cannot be classified as primary / secondary nor residential.
>> That could be marked as tertiary.
>>
>> I welcome any suggestions or discussions backed my examples on this.
>>
>> Cheers
>> --
>> Bibek Shrestha
>> bibekshrestha at gmail dot com
>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/bibstha
>> "You mustn't be afraid to dream a little bigger, darling.", Eames to
>> Arthur, Inception 2010
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 11:21 AM, amrit karmacharya <amrit.im at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> there is no tertiary, trunk, unclassified roads.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 2:45 PM, bibekshrestha at gmail.com <
>>> bibekshrestha at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Amrit,
>>>>
>>>> We had a pretty long discussion among which tags to use for roads in
>>>> Nepal and came up with some kind of agreement.
>>>> You can check what tags we use here
>>>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nepal/Roads
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> --
>>>> Bibek Shrestha
>>>> bibekshrestha at gmail dot com
>>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/bibstha
>>>> "You mustn't be afraid to dream a little bigger, darling.", Eames to
>>>> Arthur, Inception 2010
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 7:56 AM, amrit karmacharya <amrit.im at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> data quality has always been an issue for any kind of geographic data.
>>>>> We need more mappers from different localities for this and need to grow
>>>>> our OSM community. But location is only one aspect of data quality,
>>>>> attributes provide life to the data. it is also high time to agree on
>>>>> standard for object (like roads, hotels, tea shops, co-operatives, tuition
>>>>> centers). we should have discussions on these topics.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 1:04 PM, Nama Budhathoki <
>>>>> namabudhathoki at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Mappers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It would be good if those who have local knowledge could correct
>>>>>> those roads. Leaving incorrect data in OSM for long time will have
>>>>>> detrimental effect to our effort. Many people raise questions of data
>>>>>> quality in user-contributed data. It is difficult for them to accept that
>>>>>> ordinary people can produce amazing maps. If those suspicious minds see
>>>>>> these incorrect roads, it will only help them to spread mistrust about the
>>>>>> whole dataset.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nama
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 12:01 PM, amrit karmacharya <
>>>>>> amrit.im at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> yes, i have been tagging highway=motorway, for those roads which
>>>>>>> have 2 lanes and carry much traffic. i have checked these roads in google
>>>>>>> satellite images too. as per the common tags used, i thought this was the
>>>>>>> best tag to use. if someone feels otherwise, we should have a discussion on
>>>>>>> it. i shall revert them back for now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and manoj, as initial part of MapKathmandu project, i have traced
>>>>>>> many roads referencing bing and google satellite image. i have also used
>>>>>>> the gps traces for accurate positions. I have tried to trace many roads in
>>>>>>> baluwatar area as we are doing a mapping party there on 13 oct saturday.
>>>>>>> these roads have been traced through satellite imagery only, so i agree
>>>>>>> that they are incorrect, and we plan to check and correct it during the
>>>>>>> mapping party. i would be very thankful if you could correct them *ASAP
>>>>>>> *as it would help the mapping event. I would also like to invite
>>>>>>> you to this event. the venue is Biruwa Ventures. we welcome every
>>>>>>> assistence.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 4:19 AM, Rajeev Amatya <
>>>>>>> rajeevamatya at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Would be great if amrit fixed it since he knows these roads better.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> we do not use highway=motorway. Highway=trunk is the best we can
>>>>>>>> go. Use of highway=tertiary is being considered/discussed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 12:31 AM, Aashish Tripathee <
>>>>>>>> helloworld at aashishtripathee.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Just have a look at this:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=27.7143&lon=85.3224&zoom=14&layers=M
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 4:13 AM, Aashish Tripathee <
>>>>>>>>> helloworld at aashishtripathee.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I've fixed some of them but he had tagged really a lot of roads
>>>>>>>>>> with highway=motorway and, so before reverting more back, I wanted to ask,
>>>>>>>>>> what sort of roads are to be tagged that way? I mean with highway=motorway?
>>>>>>>>>> That isn't even included in the tags for roads of Nepal in the wiki (
>>>>>>>>>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nepal/Roads)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 9:13 PM, Rajeev Amatya <
>>>>>>>>>> rajeevamatya at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> i think amrit has been mistakenly tagging the roads as
>>>>>>>>>>> highway=motorway.
>>>>>>>>>>> please fix them asap.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Aashish Tripathee <
>>>>>>>>>>> helloworld at aashishtripathee.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On JOSM, please see the author of that. I also mapped Baluwatar
>>>>>>>>>>>> region around a month back but not now. Please check who is doing that
>>>>>>>>>>>> incorrect mapping in JOSM so that we can contact him/her.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 9, 2012, at 18:06, Manoj Thapa <manoj.thapa at outlook.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> > Dear All,
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> > I am mapping Baluwatar and Maharajgunj area from last few
>>>>>>>>>>>> months and i am quite familiar with these areas. From last few days i am
>>>>>>>>>>>> happy to see other few friends mapping on these area as well. Many roads
>>>>>>>>>>>> they mapped were wrong and some road are not there in field. I corrected
>>>>>>>>>>>> those. but today i find same problem on other areas of Kathmandu. please
>>>>>>>>>>>> see light blue roads (motor roads) in image on the attached file. At the
>>>>>>>>>>>> mean time, i also noticed that this person is randomly mapping in different
>>>>>>>>>>>> areas. How do we check this?
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>> > Manoj
>>>>>>>>>>>> > <osmOct9.jpg>
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>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *Aashish Tripathee*
>>>>>>>>>> *Founder Partner*
>>>>>>>>>> *Bwingle Web Solutions <http://bwingle.org/>*
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