[OSM-np] Talk-np Digest, Vol 7, Issue 2
Ryan Sommerville
ryan.sommerville at gmail.com
Thu Oct 11 18:00:50 BST 2012
Hi all,
I found this online program on how to develop street addresses
where there are none. I thought it was pretty relevant to some of the
recent discussions (below) and figured I should post the details.
Some quick points:
It takes place from Nov 7 to Dec 18 (6 hours per week for 6 weeks)
Application deadline is Oct 29th
On the downside, it costs $250
If you're interested, check out more info on:
http://einstitute.worldbank.org/ei/course/street-addressing-and-management-cities
A brief excerpt from the page: Street Addressing is an invaluable tool
which provides an opportunity to create or update a map of the city.
This database is key in countries with rapidly growing urban areas
where local authorities have lost control of the urbanization process.
Street Addressing has many applications: for the public, it creates a
sense of citizenship and civic identity and it makes the city more
user-friendly by (a) enabling people to get around, (b) facilitating
the delivery of emergency and other services, and (c) locating urban
facilities.
The course gives an Introduction to Street Addressing and Applications
as well as info on how to design a Street Addressing Program and
implement it.
Ryan
On 8 October 2012 16:45, <talk-np-request at openstreetmap.org> wrote:
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> 1. Re: [MapKathmandu] Potential solution for missing street
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> 2. Re: [FOSS Nepal] Re: [MapKathmandu] Potential solution for
> missing street names (kapil nakhwa)
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> Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 01:53:51 +0545
> From: Aashish Tripathee <helloworld at aashishtripathee.com>
> To: mapkathmandu at googlegroups.com
> Cc: OpenStreetMap Community in Nepal <talk-np at openstreetmap.org>,
> foss-nepal at googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [OSM-np] [MapKathmandu] Potential solution for missing
> street names
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> I'm really surprised that there are streets without names. Naming it
> ourselves might not be such a bad idea in my opinion but we need to get the
> people living around there use the same name. If we're successful at doing
> that, even if the government keeps the names later on, they'll be bound to
> keep the names we've kept. (Whoa! )
>
> So, perhaps the challenge is getting people to use the same name that we
> keep because if we keep Aashish Marga somewhere around in Baneshwor (just
> an example) but if it's around in just OSM, that won't be useful to anyone
> at all. Names in OSM must be in-sync with what people use/are used to with.
> Just my opinion though!
>
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 1:44 AM, Rajeev Amatya <rajeevamatya at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Hi guys,
>> We have completed most of our comprehensive mapping in Tinkune-Koteshwor
>> area. Please have a look here:
>>
>> http://tools.geofabrik.de/mc/?mt0=mapnik&mt1=googlemap&lon=85.34561&lat=27.68357&zoom=17
>>
>> We will probably finish up with polygons/houses next week. The house
>> polygons are only experimental and we will not spend time on it for other
>> regions. We will now move west to Sankhamul area.
>>
>> We have also tried putting few house names in the map to get an idea about
>> how they are numbered. Seems like they are numbered by taking a distance
>> from a fixed reference point, which I think is not a bad way to go in
>> Kathmandu. While most of this region had street names, I am pretty sure
>> most regions in Lalitpur and Bhaktapur do not have the names. We are adding
>> most of the street names right now from the project that the govt and the
>> EU did some 10 years ago.
>>
>> So, we wanted to start this discussion on how to tackle this issue and
>> whether it is even possible to fix this problem. Is it a good idea to give
>> names ourselves without approval from the govt? The government probably is
>> not gonna do much in the next five years.
>>
>> Let us know if you have any thoughts on this.
>>
>> Rajeev
>>
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> *Aashish Tripathee*
> *Founder Partner*
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> Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 09:29:50 +0545
> From: kapil nakhwa <kapilnakhwa at gmail.com>
> To: foss-nepal at googlegroups.com
> Cc: anil pokhrel <anilpokhrel at yahoo.com>,
> mapkathmandu at googlegroups.com, OpenStreetMap Community in Nepal
> <talk-np at openstreetmap.org>, Nama Budhathoki
> <nama.budhathoki at mcgill.ca>
> Subject: Re: [OSM-np] [FOSS Nepal] Re: [MapKathmandu] Potential
> solution for missing street names
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> Hi guys,
>
> I appreciate the work you guys are doing. But you guys re reminding me of
> the day when we tried naming the streets on our community. Here is the
> expperience of how we as a company tried giving something back to the
> community
> http://blog.cloudfactory.com/2012/01/crowdsourcing-the-street-names.html
>
> On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 6:04 AM, Nama Budhathoki
> <namabudhathoki at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Naming streets is an essential but challenging task for us. It might be
>> difficult to generate consensus even at the local level: some might want to
>> use the name of the political leader from the party they are affiliated to;
>> others might prefer to use names reflecting history/culture etc. So it is
>> more than mapping:)
>>
>> I will try to talk to couple of people if they any suggestion from their
>> past experience naming the streets in Kathmandu.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Nama
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 7:41 PM, Prabhas Pokharel <
>> prabhas.pokharel at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Incredible work everyone.. the level of detail looks amazing.
>>>
>>> Re: names... do the more institutionally connected mappers among us have
>>> any thoughts? Nama ji? Anil ji?
>>>
>>> On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Aashish Tripathee <
>>> helloworld at aashishtripathee.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm really surprised that there are streets without names. Naming it
>>>> ourselves might not be such a bad idea in my opinion but we need to get the
>>>> people living around there use the same name. If we're successful at doing
>>>> that, even if the government keeps the names later on, they'll be bound to
>>>> keep the names we've kept. (Whoa! )
>>>>
>>>> So, perhaps the challenge is getting people to use the same name that we
>>>> keep because if we keep Aashish Marga somewhere around in Baneshwor (just
>>>> an example) but if it's around in just OSM, that won't be useful to anyone
>>>> at all. Names in OSM must be in-sync with what people use/are used to with.
>>>> Just my opinion though!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 1:44 AM, Rajeev Amatya <rajeevamatya at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>> We have completed most of our comprehensive mapping in
>>>>> Tinkune-Koteshwor area. Please have a look here:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://tools.geofabrik.de/mc/?mt0=mapnik&mt1=googlemap&lon=85.34561&lat=27.68357&zoom=17
>>>>>
>>>>> We will probably finish up with polygons/houses next week. The house
>>>>> polygons are only experimental and we will not spend time on it for other
>>>>> regions. We will now move west to Sankhamul area.
>>>>>
>>>>> We have also tried putting few house names in the map to get an idea
>>>>> about how they are numbered. Seems like they are numbered by taking a
>>>>> distance from a fixed reference point, which I think is not a bad way to go
>>>>> in Kathmandu. While most of this region had street names, I am pretty sure
>>>>> most regions in Lalitpur and Bhaktapur do not have the names. We are adding
>>>>> most of the street names right now from the project that the govt and the
>>>>> EU did some 10 years ago.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, we wanted to start this discussion on how to tackle this issue and
>>>>> whether it is even possible to fix this problem. Is it a good idea to give
>>>>> names ourselves without approval from the govt? The government probably is
>>>>> not gonna do much in the next five years.
>>>>>
>>>>> Let us know if you have any thoughts on this.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rajeev
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
>>>>> Groups "MapKathmandu" group.
>>>>> To post to this group, send email to mapkathmandu at googlegroups.com.
>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mapkathmandu?hl=en.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> *Aashish Tripathee*
>>>> *Founder Partner*
>>>> *Bwingle Web Solutions <http://bwingle.org/>*
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/bwinglenepal> <https://twitter.com/bwingle>
>>>>
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>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/mapkathmandu?hl=en.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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