[talk-ph] National Borders & Highway

Tue Oct 28 01:22:12 GMT 2008

Some clarifications and comments:

> 2 - national boundary (mostly applicable to the sea border with Malaysia
> 4 - provinces
> 6 - cities and municipalities
2, 4 & 6 is OK with me

> 8 - districts (like in Manila, Iloilo City)
> 9 - zone (like in Manila, Pasay, Caloocan)
8 & 9, I don't get this much, please explain further.

> 10 - barangay
This is OK, but it poses a some difficulty in mapping for highly dense
area (like Manila)

> 12 - sitio/purok
I haven't seen any boundaries for such areas (I've been to that is)

I think the tag boundary:administrative should used for those with
legal administrative jurisdictions.  Regions don't have any legal
jurisdictions (no elected officials).

just my thoughts.

cheers,
maning

> I don't think we really need to tag the regions since the provinces are the
> primary subdivisions of the Philippines and regions are mostly for grouping
> purposes.
>
> And I don't think we need to tag the congressional districts yet. Besides, I
> think those boundaries fall under a different value for the boundary tag.
> Like boundary:legislative?
>
> Also, let's not mark boundaries on open sea just yet (except for the
> international boundary).
>
> Regards,
> Eugene
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 7:14 PM, maning sambale <emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Ian,
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 7:02 PM, ian lopez <ian_lopez_1115 at yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Thanks for adding provincial boundaries (in advance).
>> I hope I can upload them in time for the render this week :)
>>
>> >However, I placed (or
>> > marked) some of them - in the north eastern portion of Laguna province
>>
>> I'll look into these before uploading what I made of provincial
>> boundaries.
>>
>> > (incomplete) and in the entire province of Guimaras. Right now, certain
>> > portions of Makati are being "subdivided" - The barangay boundaries of
>> > Urdaneta & Salcedo. From what I know, Barangay Salcedo doesn't exist -
>> > Salcedo Village is part of Barangay Bel-Air - and Barangay Urdaneta
>> > exists
>> > and its frontier[s] (that were featured since last week in
>> > OpenStreetMap)
>> > are accurate - according to Wikipedia.
>> Please proceed as you see fit.  I plan to add the QC brgy boundaries
>> in time (or until someone beats me to it).
>>
>> > Regarding the Higways portion, the Maharlika Highway (or the
>> > Pan-Philippine
>> > Highway) is part of the Asian Highways Network as AH26. Should we tag
>> > the
>> > entire stretch of the said highway with the tag ref=AH26 ?
>>
>> Any reference to this?
>>
>> As we all know, most political boundaries in the Philippines is pretty
>> much contested by neighboring provinces, so I will have to say that my
>> upcoming upload is still very much a work in progress (as most of the
>> Phils. political boundaries are :))) )
>>
>> Keep on mapping!  I have to say were getting a lot of progress this year!
>>
>> cheers,
>> maning
>> > I do appreciate your opinions. Thank you for your time.
>> >
>> > --- On Mon, 10/27/08, maning sambale <emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > From: maning sambale <emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com>
>> > Subject: Re: [talk-ph] National Borders & Highways
>> > To: talk-ph at openstreetmap.org
>> > Date: Monday, October 27, 2008, 10:19 AM
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I'm planning to add provincial boundaries for the Philippines
>> > following IanLopez' recommendation:
>> > tag:
>> > boundary=administrative
>> > admin_level=4
>> >> Level 4 = borders of the various provinces & Metro Manila
>> >
>> > I will clean-up the boundaries and upload them within the week.  I
>> > will also just add internal boundaries, meaning boundaries within
>> > Islands like in Mindanao.  I will not add boundaries of island
>> > provinces like Palawan or Mindoro.
>> >
>> > Any comments?
>> >
>> > cheers,
>> > maning
>> >
>> > On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 8:55 AM, maning
>> >  sambale
>> > <emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> I just found out today that ianlopez added administrative boundaries
>> >> around Metro Manila.  Great work Ian!
>> >> May I ask where did you get the boundaries (source reference)?
>> >>
>> >> cheers,
>> >> maning
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 9:39 AM,  <PBVillaflores at smart.com.ph> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> What was being done before, and how is this new tagging better?
>> >>>
>> >>> - paolo
>> >>>
>> >>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>> From: talk-ph-bounces at openstreetmap.org
>> > [mailto:talk-ph-bounces at openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of maning sambale
>> >>> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 8:20 AM
>> >>> To: talk-ph at openstreetmap.org
>> >>> Subject: Re: [talk-ph] National Borders & Highways
>> >>>
>> >>> I suggest we "reformulate" our Highways & Boundaries
>> > tagging. For
>> >  the
>> >>> former, please discuss further since I do not know much of the Road
>> > &
>> >>> Highway classifications. For the latter, I will suggest this:
>> >>>
>> >>> Yes, that would be cool.  The admin boundaries tag is already in map
>> >>> features but may be "reformulated" on the Philippine
>> > context. Feel
>> >>> free to discuss and I suggest we make a wiki page for this.
>> >>>
>> >>> Admin level 2 = The border of the Philipines (including the Spratlys
>> >>> [the parts that the Philippines claim, per PD 1596] & the
>> > Scarborough
>> >>> (?) Shoal; excluding Sabah & Palmas islands)
>> >>> Level 4 = borders of the various provinces & Metro Manila
>> >>> Level 6 = Congressional districts
>> >>> Level 8 = Various Cities & Towns in the Philippines.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 8:40 PM, discussions on the Philippines
>> >>>
>> >  <talk-ph at openstreetmap.org> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Strange mailing list.  Gives no indication of who is sending the
>> > email.  Now
>> >>>> we have got to guess who sent the email below.
>> >>> Sorry, I've changed it now.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> - paolo
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> ________________________________
>> >>>>
>> >>>> From: talk-ph-bounces at openstreetmap.org
>> >>>> [mailto:talk-ph-bounces at openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of
>> > discussions on the
>> >>>> Philippines
>> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 8:05 PM
>> >>>> To: talk-ph at openstreetmap.org
>> >>>> Subject: [talk-ph] National Borders & Highways
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I suggest we "reformulate" our Highways & Boundaries
>> > tagging. For the
>> >>>> former, please discuss
>> >  further since I do not know much of the
>> > Road &
>> >>>> Highway classifications. For the latter, I will suggest this:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Admin level 2 = The border of the Philipines (including the
>> > Spratlys [the
>> >>>> parts that the Philippines claim, per PD 1596] & the
>> > Scarborough (?) Shoal;
>> >>>> excluding Sabah & Palmas islands)
>> >>>> Level 4 = borders of the various provinces & Metro Manila
>> >>>> Level 6 = Congressional districts
>> >>>> Level 8 = Various Cities & Towns in the Philippines.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I'm planing to buy a GPS device or possibly ask for one from
>> > fellow OSM
>> >>>> contributors in the Philippines, since I'll join the Milo
>> > Marathon, which
>> >>>> will be held in San Pablo City on August 24. It is a big
>> > opportunity ro map
>> >>>> a good portion of San Pablo City. Please email me personally
>> >  if
>> > you're
>> >>>> interested in lending/borrowing me the GPS device, even for a
>> > week. Thanks
>> >>>> in advace.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
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