[talk-ph] National Borders & Highway

Eugene Alvin Villar seav80 at gmail.com
Tue Oct 28 15:28:04 GMT 2008 

Please read on.

> 8 - districts (like in Manila, Iloilo City)
> > 9 - zone (like in Manila, Pasay, Caloocan)
> 8 & 9, I don't get this much, please explain further.


Manila is divided into 16 districts (Ermita, Malate, Quiapo, Sampaloc, etc.)
which are further divided into 100 zones, which are further subdivided into
897 barangays. In practically all barangay markers in Manila, you'll see
something like "Brgy. 689, Zone 50, Malate, Manila". Pasay City and Caloocan
City are also divided into zones.

Unlike the districts of Quezon City like Diliman and Cubao. The districts of
Manila, Iloilo City, etc. and the zones are well-defined. However, these
districts and zones are not local government units.

> 10 - barangay
> This is OK, but it poses a some difficulty in mapping for highly dense
> area (like Manila)


I know, but that's how weird Manila, Pasay and Caloocan are.

> 12 - sitio/purok
> I haven't seen any boundaries for such areas (I've been to that is)


I've never seen boundaries as well, so I guess this can be of low priority.

More comments are welcome! We all need to get consensus on this before we
create more boundaries.


Regards,
Eugene



> > I don't think we really need to tag the regions since the provinces are
> the
> > primary subdivisions of the Philippines and regions are mostly for
> grouping
> > purposes.
> >
> > And I don't think we need to tag the congressional districts yet.
> Besides, I
> > think those boundaries fall under a different value for the boundary tag.
> > Like boundary:legislative?
> >
> > Also, let's not mark boundaries on open sea just yet (except for the
> > international boundary).
> >
> > Regards,
> > Eugene
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 7:14 PM, maning sambale <
> emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Ian,
> >>
> >> On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 7:02 PM, ian lopez <ian_lopez_1115 at yahoo.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > Thanks for adding provincial boundaries (in advance).
> >> I hope I can upload them in time for the render this week :)
> >>
> >> >However, I placed (or
> >> > marked) some of them - in the north eastern portion of Laguna province
> >>
> >> I'll look into these before uploading what I made of provincial
> >> boundaries.
> >>
> >> > (incomplete) and in the entire province of Guimaras. Right now,
> certain
> >> > portions of Makati are being "subdivided" - The barangay boundaries of
> >> > Urdaneta & Salcedo. From what I know, Barangay Salcedo doesn't exist -
> >> > Salcedo Village is part of Barangay Bel-Air - and Barangay Urdaneta
> >> > exists
> >> > and its frontier[s] (that were featured since last week in
> >> > OpenStreetMap)
> >> > are accurate - according to Wikipedia.
> >> Please proceed as you see fit.  I plan to add the QC brgy boundaries
> >> in time (or until someone beats me to it).
> >>
> >> > Regarding the Higways portion, the Maharlika Highway (or the
> >> > Pan-Philippine
> >> > Highway) is part of the Asian Highways Network as AH26. Should we tag
> >> > the
> >> > entire stretch of the said highway with the tag ref=AH26 ?
> >>
> >> Any reference to this?
> >>
> >> As we all know, most political boundaries in the Philippines is pretty
> >> much contested by neighboring provinces, so I will have to say that my
> >> upcoming upload is still very much a work in progress (as most of the
> >> Phils. political boundaries are :))) )
> >>
> >> Keep on mapping!  I have to say were getting a lot of progress this
> year!
> >>
> >> cheers,
> >> maning
> >> > I do appreciate your opinions. Thank you for your time.
> >> >
> >> > --- On Mon, 10/27/08, maning sambale <emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > From: maning sambale <emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com>
> >> > Subject: Re: [talk-ph] National Borders & Highways
> >> > To: talk-ph at openstreetmap.org
> >> > Date: Monday, October 27, 2008, 10:19 AM
> >> >
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > I'm planning to add provincial boundaries for the Philippines
> >> > following IanLopez' recommendation:
> >> > tag:
> >> > boundary=administrative
> >> > admin_level=4
> >> >> Level 4 = borders of the various provinces & Metro Manila
> >> >
> >> > I will clean-up the boundaries and upload them within the week.  I
> >> > will also just add internal boundaries, meaning boundaries within
> >> > Islands like in Mindanao.  I will not add boundaries of island
> >> > provinces like Palawan or Mindoro.
> >> >
> >> > Any comments?
> >> >
> >> > cheers,
> >> > maning
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 8:55 AM, maning
> >> >  sambale
> >> > <emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> Hi,
> >> >>
> >> >> I just found out today that ianlopez added administrative boundaries
> >> >> around Metro Manila.  Great work Ian!
> >> >> May I ask where did you get the boundaries (source reference)?
> >> >>
> >> >> cheers,
> >> >> maning
> >> >>
> >> >> On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 9:39 AM,  <PBVillaflores at smart.com.ph> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> What was being done before, and how is this new tagging better?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> - paolo
> >> >>>
> >> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >> >>> From: talk-ph-bounces at openstreetmap.org
> >> > [mailto:talk-ph-bounces at openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of maning
> sambale
> >> >>> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 8:20 AM
> >> >>> To: talk-ph at openstreetmap.org
> >> >>> Subject: Re: [talk-ph] National Borders & Highways
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I suggest we "reformulate" our Highways & Boundaries
> >> > tagging. For
> >> >  the
> >> >>> former, please discuss further since I do not know much of the Road
> >> > &
> >> >>> Highway classifications. For the latter, I will suggest this:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Yes, that would be cool.  The admin boundaries tag is already in map
> >> >>> features but may be "reformulated" on the Philippine
> >> > context. Feel
> >> >>> free to discuss and I suggest we make a wiki page for this.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Admin level 2 = The border of the Philipines (including the Spratlys
> >> >>> [the parts that the Philippines claim, per PD 1596] & the
> >> > Scarborough
> >> >>> (?) Shoal; excluding Sabah & Palmas islands)
> >> >>> Level 4 = borders of the various provinces & Metro Manila
> >> >>> Level 6 = Congressional districts
> >> >>> Level 8 = Various Cities & Towns in the Philippines.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 8:40 PM, discussions on the Philippines
> >> >>>
> >> >  <talk-ph at openstreetmap.org> wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Strange mailing list.  Gives no indication of who is sending the
> >> > email.  Now
> >> >>>> we have got to guess who sent the email below.
> >> >>> Sorry, I've changed it now.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> - paolo
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> ________________________________
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> From: talk-ph-bounces at openstreetmap.org
> >> >>>> [mailto:talk-ph-bounces at openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of
> >> > discussions on the
> >> >>>> Philippines
> >> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 8:05 PM
> >> >>>> To: talk-ph at openstreetmap.org
> >> >>>> Subject: [talk-ph] National Borders & Highways
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> I suggest we "reformulate" our Highways & Boundaries
> >> > tagging. For the
> >> >>>> former, please discuss
> >> >  further since I do not know much of the
> >> > Road &
> >> >>>> Highway classifications. For the latter, I will suggest this:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Admin level 2 = The border of the Philipines (including the
> >> > Spratlys [the
> >> >>>> parts that the Philippines claim, per PD 1596] & the
> >> > Scarborough (?) Shoal;
> >> >>>> excluding Sabah & Palmas islands)
> >> >>>> Level 4 = borders of the various provinces & Metro Manila
> >> >>>> Level 6 = Congressional districts
> >> >>>> Level 8 = Various Cities & Towns in the Philippines.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> I'm planing to buy a GPS device or possibly ask for one from
> >> > fellow OSM
> >> >>>> contributors in the Philippines, since I'll join the Milo
> >> > Marathon, which
> >> >>>> will be held in San Pablo City on August 24. It is a big
> >> > opportunity ro map
> >> >>>> a good portion of San Pablo City. Please email me personally
> >> >  if
> >> > you're
> >> >>>> interested in lending/borrowing me the GPS device, even for a
> >> > week. Thanks
> >> >>>> in advace.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
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