[talk-ph] National Borders & Highway
maning sambale
emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com
Wed Oct 29 04:28:20 GMT 2008
The upload of internal provincial boundaries is now finished.
The tags are as follows:
<tag k='admin_level' v='4' />
<tag k='boundary' v='administrative' />
<tag k='source' v='NAMRIA topo' />
<tag k='created_by' v='GPSBabel-1.3.5' />
I also added a relation boundary tag for the land-locked province of Bukidnon.
Unless we get to finish uploading high-res coastline (maybe from PGS
or Yahoo). We can start adding more boundary ways. In the mean time
I think we can use the provincial boundaries as a base.
cheers,
maning
On 10/28/08, Eugene Alvin Villar <seav80 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Please read on.
>
>> 8 - districts (like in Manila, Iloilo City)
>> > 9 - zone (like in Manila, Pasay, Caloocan)
>> 8 & 9, I don't get this much, please explain further.
>
>
> Manila is divided into 16 districts (Ermita, Malate, Quiapo, Sampaloc, etc.)
> which are further divided into 100 zones, which are further subdivided into
> 897 barangays. In practically all barangay markers in Manila, you'll see
> something like "Brgy. 689, Zone 50, Malate, Manila". Pasay City and Caloocan
> City are also divided into zones.
>
> Unlike the districts of Quezon City like Diliman and Cubao. The districts of
> Manila, Iloilo City, etc. and the zones are well-defined. However, these
> districts and zones are not local government units.
>
>> 10 - barangay
>> This is OK, but it poses a some difficulty in mapping for highly dense
>> area (like Manila)
>
>
> I know, but that's how weird Manila, Pasay and Caloocan are.
>
>> 12 - sitio/purok
>> I haven't seen any boundaries for such areas (I've been to that is)
>
>
> I've never seen boundaries as well, so I guess this can be of low priority.
>
> More comments are welcome! We all need to get consensus on this before we
> create more boundaries.
>
>
> Regards,
> Eugene
>
>
>
>> > I don't think we really need to tag the regions since the provinces are
>> the
>> > primary subdivisions of the Philippines and regions are mostly for
>> grouping
>> > purposes.
>> >
>> > And I don't think we need to tag the congressional districts yet.
>> Besides, I
>> > think those boundaries fall under a different value for the boundary
>> > tag.
>> > Like boundary:legislative?
>> >
>> > Also, let's not mark boundaries on open sea just yet (except for the
>> > international boundary).
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Eugene
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 7:14 PM, maning sambale <
>> emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Ian,
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 7:02 PM, ian lopez <ian_lopez_1115 at yahoo.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > Thanks for adding provincial boundaries (in advance).
>> >> I hope I can upload them in time for the render this week :)
>> >>
>> >> >However, I placed (or
>> >> > marked) some of them - in the north eastern portion of Laguna
>> >> > province
>> >>
>> >> I'll look into these before uploading what I made of provincial
>> >> boundaries.
>> >>
>> >> > (incomplete) and in the entire province of Guimaras. Right now,
>> certain
>> >> > portions of Makati are being "subdivided" - The barangay boundaries
>> >> > of
>> >> > Urdaneta & Salcedo. From what I know, Barangay Salcedo doesn't exist
>> >> > -
>> >> > Salcedo Village is part of Barangay Bel-Air - and Barangay Urdaneta
>> >> > exists
>> >> > and its frontier[s] (that were featured since last week in
>> >> > OpenStreetMap)
>> >> > are accurate - according to Wikipedia.
>> >> Please proceed as you see fit. I plan to add the QC brgy boundaries
>> >> in time (or until someone beats me to it).
>> >>
>> >> > Regarding the Higways portion, the Maharlika Highway (or the
>> >> > Pan-Philippine
>> >> > Highway) is part of the Asian Highways Network as AH26. Should we tag
>> >> > the
>> >> > entire stretch of the said highway with the tag ref=AH26 ?
>> >>
>> >> Any reference to this?
>> >>
>> >> As we all know, most political boundaries in the Philippines is pretty
>> >> much contested by neighboring provinces, so I will have to say that my
>> >> upcoming upload is still very much a work in progress (as most of the
>> >> Phils. political boundaries are :))) )
>> >>
>> >> Keep on mapping! I have to say were getting a lot of progress this
>> year!
>> >>
>> >> cheers,
>> >> maning
>> >> > I do appreciate your opinions. Thank you for your time.
>> >> >
>> >> > --- On Mon, 10/27/08, maning sambale <emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > From: maning sambale <emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com>
>> >> > Subject: Re: [talk-ph] National Borders & Highways
>> >> > To: talk-ph at openstreetmap.org
>> >> > Date: Monday, October 27, 2008, 10:19 AM
>> >> >
>> >> > Hi,
>> >> >
>> >> > I'm planning to add provincial boundaries for the Philippines
>> >> > following IanLopez' recommendation:
>> >> > tag:
>> >> > boundary=administrative
>> >> > admin_level=4
>> >> >> Level 4 = borders of the various provinces & Metro Manila
>> >> >
>> >> > I will clean-up the boundaries and upload them within the week. I
>> >> > will also just add internal boundaries, meaning boundaries within
>> >> > Islands like in Mindanao. I will not add boundaries of island
>> >> > provinces like Palawan or Mindoro.
>> >> >
>> >> > Any comments?
>> >> >
>> >> > cheers,
>> >> > maning
>> >> >
>> >> > On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 8:55 AM, maning
>> >> > sambale
>> >> > <emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> Hi,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I just found out today that ianlopez added administrative boundaries
>> >> >> around Metro Manila. Great work Ian!
>> >> >> May I ask where did you get the boundaries (source reference)?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> cheers,
>> >> >> maning
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 9:39 AM, <PBVillaflores at smart.com.ph> wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> What was being done before, and how is this new tagging better?
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> - paolo
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> -----Original Message-----
>> >> >>> From: talk-ph-bounces at openstreetmap.org
>> >> > [mailto:talk-ph-bounces at openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of maning
>> sambale
>> >> >>> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 8:20 AM
>> >> >>> To: talk-ph at openstreetmap.org
>> >> >>> Subject: Re: [talk-ph] National Borders & Highways
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> I suggest we "reformulate" our Highways & Boundaries
>> >> > tagging. For
>> >> > the
>> >> >>> former, please discuss further since I do not know much of the Road
>> >> > &
>> >> >>> Highway classifications. For the latter, I will suggest this:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Yes, that would be cool. The admin boundaries tag is already in
>> >> >>> map
>> >> >>> features but may be "reformulated" on the Philippine
>> >> > context. Feel
>> >> >>> free to discuss and I suggest we make a wiki page for this.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Admin level 2 = The border of the Philipines (including the
>> >> >>> Spratlys
>> >> >>> [the parts that the Philippines claim, per PD 1596] & the
>> >> > Scarborough
>> >> >>> (?) Shoal; excluding Sabah & Palmas islands)
>> >> >>> Level 4 = borders of the various provinces & Metro Manila
>> >> >>> Level 6 = Congressional districts
>> >> >>> Level 8 = Various Cities & Towns in the Philippines.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 8:40 PM, discussions on the Philippines
>> >> >>>
>> >> > <talk-ph at openstreetmap.org> wrote:
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Strange mailing list. Gives no indication of who is sending the
>> >> > email. Now
>> >> >>>> we have got to guess who sent the email below.
>> >> >>> Sorry, I've changed it now.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> - paolo
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> ________________________________
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> From: talk-ph-bounces at openstreetmap.org
>> >> >>>> [mailto:talk-ph-bounces at openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of
>> >> > discussions on the
>> >> >>>> Philippines
>> >> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2008 8:05 PM
>> >> >>>> To: talk-ph at openstreetmap.org
>> >> >>>> Subject: [talk-ph] National Borders & Highways
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> I suggest we "reformulate" our Highways & Boundaries
>> >> > tagging. For the
>> >> >>>> former, please discuss
>> >> > further since I do not know much of the
>> >> > Road &
>> >> >>>> Highway classifications. For the latter, I will suggest this:
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Admin level 2 = The border of the Philipines (including the
>> >> > Spratlys [the
>> >> >>>> parts that the Philippines claim, per PD 1596] & the
>> >> > Scarborough (?) Shoal;
>> >> >>>> excluding Sabah & Palmas islands)
>> >> >>>> Level 4 = borders of the various provinces & Metro Manila
>> >> >>>> Level 6 = Congressional districts
>> >> >>>> Level 8 = Various Cities & Towns in the Philippines.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> I'm planing to buy a GPS device or possibly ask for one from
>> >> > fellow OSM
>> >> >>>> contributors in the Philippines, since I'll join the Milo
>> >> > Marathon, which
>> >> >>>> will be held in San Pablo City on August 24. It is a big
>> >> > opportunity ro map
>> >> >>>> a good portion of San Pablo City. Please email me personally
>> >> > if
>> >> > you're
>> >> >>>> interested in lending/borrowing me the GPS device, even for a
>> >> > week. Thanks
>> >> >>>> in advace.
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
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