[talk-ph] Revisiting the admin_level values for boundary=administrative

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

Hi maning,

For your second question, well Ian and I are already converting and
implementing the borders in Metro Manila as relations (though the
admin_levels are still not finalized).

For example, see this relation for Brgy. Urdaneta in Makati:
http://openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/103686

Or this relation for Brgy. Ayala Alabang:
http://openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/110365


Eugene / seav


On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 8:16 PM, maning sambale
<emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com>wrote:

> Sounds like a good proposal to me.  Do we vote? :)
> Let's wait for the others to look into it before we start
> implementing.  I'm not really sure what is the extent of coverage of
> existing admin boundary data that we need to edit to follow this
> convention.
>
> Next question would be, will it be a relation or just regular node/way?
>
> cheers,
> maning
>
> who wants to go home already but still working because he needs to
> finish statistical processing of gigabytes of satellite data to meet
> work deadline!
>
> On 4/30/09, Eugene Alvin Villar <seav80 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi maning,
> >
> > Actually, I mentioned in my e-mail that I have specifically excluded
> > congressional districts[1] from the discussion since these do not specify
> > administrative boundaries. Aside from the pork barrel, the
> representatives
> > don't *administer* their territories. I think these should be tagged as
> > boundary=legislative/congressional and not  as
> boundary=administrative.[2]
> >
> > I've done a bit more research since my initial e-mail and here is my
> > proposed values for admin_level:
> >
> > 2 - National border
> > 3 - Regions
> > 4 - Provinces
> > 5 - Sangguniang Panlalawigan districts (if any)
> > 6 - Cities/Municipalities
> > 7 - Sangguniang Panlungsod/Bayan districts (if any)
> > 8 - Other administrative districts[3] (if any)
> > 9 - Zones (if any)
> > 10 - Barangays
> > 12 - Sitios/Puroks (if any, but only if boundaries are defined)
> >
> > The Sangguniang Lalawigan/Lungsod/Bayan districts are mentioned in
> Republic
> > Act No. 7887[4]. These districts basically apportion the members of the
> > LGU's Sanggunian. Since the Sanggunian is an administrative entity (it's
> > the
> > one that creates the local laws or ordinances), then it's proper that
> their
> > districts also be given admin_levels.
> >
> > These proposed values have the proviso that admin_level=3 is *not*
> > automatically an admin_level=4|5 due to the weird nature of Isabela City
> > and
> > the ARMM. (But, as long as all boundaries are grouped into relations,
> then
> > there should be no problem with interpretations.)
> >
> >
> > Eugene / seav
> >
> > -------------
> > [1] The proper legal term is "legislative district".
> >
> > [2] We can also have boundary=judicial (for the jurisdictions of the
> > Regional and Metropolitan trial courts) and boundary=police (like
> Manila's
> > Western Police District). Also, Catholic archdioceses and dioceses,
> anyone
> > (boundary=catholic)? :-)
> >
> > [3] Examples of other non-Sanggunian districts:
> >
> > A. Manila has 6 Sangguniang districts (I to VI) co-terminous with the
> > legislative districts and these are further subdivided into 17
> geographical
> > districts: Tondo 1, Tondo 2, Sta. Cruz, Sampaloc, Sta. Mesa, Quiapo,
> > Binondo, San Miguel, San Nicolas, Port Area, Intramuros, Paco, Pandacan,
> > Ermita, Malate, Sta. Ana, and San Andres. These districts are further
> > subdivided into 100 zones. (Tondo 1 and Tondo 2 used to be one district,
> > while San Andres used to be part of Sta. Ana and Sta. Mesa used to be
> part
> > of Sampaloc.)
> >
> > B. Iloilo City has 6 districts: Arevalo, City Proper, Jaro, La Paz,
> > Mandurriao, and Molo. (Iloilo City has only 1 legislative district.)
> >
> > C. Davao City has 3 Sangguniang districts (1 to 3) co-terminous with the
> > legislative districts and these are further subdivided into 11
> > administrative districts: Poblacion, Talomo, Agdao, Buhangin, Bunawan,
> > Paquibato, Baguio, Calinan, Marilog, Toril, and Tugbok.
> >
> > D. Pasay City has 7 districts (1 to 7) subdivided into 20 zones. (Pasay
> > City
> > has only 1 legislative district.)
> >
> > N.B. Quezon City "districts" like Cubao, Diliman, La Loma, San Francisco
> > del
> > Monte, Projects 2,3,4,5,6,7,8, etc. DO NOT have legally defined borders
> so
> > they won't have a place in the admin_level scheme.
> >
> > [4] http://www.chanrobles.com/republicacts/republicactno7887.html
> >
> >
>


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