[talk-ph] Draft "MoA" between the OSM-F and any possible localchapter

Mike Collinson mike at ayeltd.biz
Fri Aug 7 15:21:32 BST 2009


The dilemma for for us at the main OSM Foundation is that by setting up local chapters, our main reliable source of funding, the annual subscriptions that members pay, may no longer come in directly.  Much of that money is spent on computer hardware to keep our sites up, and a proportion on promoting OSM globally and a proportion on legal and other costs.  These subscriptions are GBP 15 annually ... so the figure of GBP 10 is essentially saying that the local chapter should keep 1/3 for local costs and promotion.

In a European and North American context, that is not an unreasonable figure for most countries.  For example, I am a member of a small town cycle club with no great costs and the annual membership is GBP 18.   

However, elsewhere, I concur with Eugene that it will be too much.  It will be a deterrent to recruiting members and be a large an inclusive organisation.  I am sure it is no coincidence that the Philippines has an active and increasingly large community but no OSMF members at all.

I suspect the solution is for you to simply negotiate a lower rate, but any other ideas are welcome.

What would be a big win for all of us is to be collectively much bigger than we are now but still have a income to grow with. Nick has suggested 13,000, i.e. around 10% of folks who register an OSM account.  That would certainly make us much more representative than our membership today of 160!

Mike


At 04:08 PM 6/08/2009, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote:
>I think I mentioned this before but I disagree with the fee. In the draft agreement, the idea is to pay £10 for each member of the local chapter! I think this is too much.
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>On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 7:36 PM, maning sambale <<mailto:emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com>emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com> wrote:
>I added our plans to form an OSM-PH org here:
><http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/Local_Chapters>http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/Local_Chapters
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>I also requested/nominated Entrhopia to take on the interim Sec/Treas
>position at the moment.
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>Another thing we should look into:
>"Local Chapters would pay the Foundation a fee based on the number of
>members (£10 is currently proposed)."
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>On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 4:42 AM, Ronny Ager-Wick - Develo
>Ltd.<<mailto:raw at develo.ltd.uk>raw at develo.ltd.uk> wrote:
>> Sorry I missed this.
>> Yes, I still volunteer, and I'm going to the Phils in 3 weeks anyway, so if
>> it will happen between 3 and 7 weeks from now, perfect!
>> Ronny.
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>> Eugene Alvin Villar wrote:
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>> Ronny volunteered to be one of the incorporators before:
>> <http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ph/2009-May/000901.html>http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ph/2009-May/000901.html
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>> On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 7:07 PM, Andre Marcelo-Tanner <<mailto:andre at enthropia.com>andre at enthropia.com>
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>>>
>>> no responses yet, need 1 more, 4 cannot make a company, need 5
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