[talk-ph] Draft "MoA" between the OSM-F and any possible localchapter

[Mike Collinson]

I was present at an informal Local Chapters meeting in Amsterdam during SOTM with mostly German, Spanish and Italian community members. Eugene already outlines the many of the main points raised.  In addition I'd emphasize:

- It is expensive in to form a legal non-profit (not just in the Philippines!).  It was suggested that the agreement be relaxed either to say that the intent be non-profit event if registered as an ordinary company or just to say that if must be in line with the aims of the Foundation.

- If members are not automatically OSMF members, this means that an existing organisation can be used and essentially a Special Interest Group is formed. That needs some care, as an example using Linux Users Group may seem ideal but might turn off some mappers who are not into Linux or open software.

These requests have been broadly accepted and all seem positive for you guys as it gives more options and may save money. I hope Nick Black, who is leading the initiative for the Foundation, is keeping in touch with Maning?

My own personal opinion, BTW, is that having a formal organisation rather then just meeting for great mapping parties :-)  is not of great value to individual mappers, BUT is very useful when asking organisations to donate data and moderately so for generating publicity statements for tv and newspapers ... so I kinda hope you do!

Mike



At 07:47 PM 18/07/2009, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote:
>Anyway, the German community has given some critical feedback to the draft agreement. The thread at the talk-de mailing list starts here: <http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-de/2009-July/049445.html>http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-de/2009-July/049445.html
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>In particular, they are against the reverting of assets to OSM-F when the relationship is terminated even if the local chapter had paid for those assets before the agreement (e.g., the <http://openstreetmap.de>openstreetmap.de domain). They are also against the consideration that local chapter members are automatically OSM-F members as well and that the local chapter has to pay the OSM-F membership fees.
>
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>On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 12:08 AM, maning sambale <<mailto:emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com>emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com> wrote:
>If I remember it right, Enthropia commited to help us in setting-up a
>local chapter.  I believe Andre even posted a short survey to list
>members of what are their views on formalizing OSM-PH.
>
>Most people who answered are in favor of the formalization.  Totor has
>some reservations for a possible admin/management overhead of a formal
>org.
>
>We want it done but somebody has to do it. :)
>
>@ Andre, can you give us some update on Enthropia's previous offer?
>Sayang yung opportunity.
>
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>On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 10:54 PM, Marloue Pidor<<mailto:murlwe at mail2engineer.com>murlwe at mail2engineer.com> wrote:
>> This is nice, you have me on this.
>>
>> murlwe
>> <-----Original Message----->
>>>From: Eugene Alvin Villar [<mailto:seav80 at gmail.com>seav80 at gmail.com]
>>>Sent: 7/18/2009 6:54:52 PM
>>>To: <mailto:talk-ph at openstreetmap.org>talk-ph at openstreetmap.org
>>>Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Draft "MoA" between the OSM-F and any possible
>>>localchapter
>>>
>>>Hi guys,
>>>
>>>I came across this draft agreement between a local organization wanting to
>>>officially represent the OSM-F in a local jurisdiction and the OSM-F:
>>><http://docs.google.com/View?id=dgdmw5gt_7gtj36hhh>http://docs.google.com/View?id=dgdmw5gt_7gtj36hhh
>>>
>>>What do you guys think?
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>Eugene / seav
>>>
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