[talk-ph] General strategy to using bing imagery in areas with no active OSMer (was Re: Microsoft Bing Maps Imagerty [sic] Terms of Use)

Eugene Alvin Villar seav80 at gmail.com
Fri Dec 3 16:33:18 GMT 2010


Hi Anthony,

Yes, we are already allowed to trace from Bing. Please do check up if
the imagery aligns with GPS tracks and adjust the offset if needed
before tracing.


On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 8:56 AM, Anthony Balico <anthony.balico at gmail.com> wrote:
> Are we allowed to trace yet?  Am killing time for zambo area
>
> On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 1:39 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar <seav80 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> We should also check whether the imagery is aligned correctly.
>>
>> I looked at Calamba and the imagery seems to be shifted WNW by around
>> 5 meters compared to the numerous GPS traces.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 6:09 PM, maning sambale
>> <emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > I'm posting this to generate insights on how we should maximize and
>> > accelerate data contributions in bing covered areas.
>> >
>> > At the moment there are a lot of bing imagery with minimal active
>> > ph-osmer (perhaps main reason is the lack of imagery).  I am
>> > predicting that this will change very soon when other people start to
>> > see that their area of interest has his-res imagery available.  As a
>> > community, how do we approach the info dissemination so that people
>> > become aware that there is imagery already in "X" town?
>> >
>> > Some suggestions:
>> > 1. Lets create a coverage list and add them here:
>> > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Philippines/hires_imagery
>> > . Do we have complete coverage sweep:
>> > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bing/Coverage#Philippines ?
>> >
>> > 2. Check nearby editors covered by bing and remind them that imagery
>> > is now available (via OSM messaging).
>> >
>> > 3.  "Seed" the area by tracing roads (temporarily tagged as
>> > highway=road).
>> >
>> > Adding stub roads can give an impression of completeness.  Hence, it
>> > can be counter-productive.  Personally, I have reservations on point 3
>> > (but lack the patience to wait for a passionate contributor in "X"
>> > town) :) .
>> >
>> > On the long term, the main strategy would be to encourage local osm
>> > groups within these imagery covered areas.
>> >
>> > Any ideas?
>> >
>> > On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 8:28 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar <seav80 at gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >> By the way, Bing imagery is already available on Potlatch 2, not
>> >> Potlatch. You can access Potlatch 2 already at the main OSM website.
>> >> Just go to the area where you want to edit, hover over the Edit tab
>> >> until a small pop-up appears and click on the Potlatch 2 link.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 8:23 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar <seav80 at gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>> Here is more information:
>> >>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bing
>> >>>
>> >>> And check first if the imagery is really rectified or aligned
>> >>> correctly; use GPS traces to confirm:
>> >>> http://blog.samat.org/p/Bing-Imagery-Misaligned-at-Lower-Zooms
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 7:40 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar <seav80 at gmail.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>> Hi guys,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Here's the terms of use:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> http://opengeodata.org/microsoft-imagery-details
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Please read before tracing. :-)
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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>> > maning
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