[talk-ph] Typhoon Megi/Juan Humanitarian OSM Team activation request

maning sambale emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com
Thu Nov 4 01:19:24 GMT 2010


And now there's flooding:
http://www.gmanews.tv/story/205093/100-cagayan-valley-villages-flooded-3-apayao-towns-isolated

On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 7:46 PM, maning sambale
<emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear everyone,
>
> Unsatisfied by the response below, I did a follow-up call with the
> NAMRIA concerned staff and explained the purpose of our project.
>
> They said that as long as we scanned them and didn't purchased the
> scanned/digital version from NAMRIA and we did our own rectification,
> this is completely OK.  One thing to note though is that rectification
> should be in Luzon 1911 datum
> http://spatialreference.org/ref/epsg/4253/ and at least 16 GCPs are
> needed.  After the rectification, we can then reproject it to GCS
> WGS-84
>
> Moreover, they said that they are well aware of OSM in the Philippines
> of which they are grateful because we are providing free access to
> vector datasets of the country (specifically streets).
>
> Honestly, the above statement surprised me.
>
> On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 1:10 PM, maning sambale
> <emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Here's NAMRIA's response to my inquiry (I forgot to send to the list
>> ASAP because it was marked as spam):
>>
>> Dear Sir,
>>
>> Did you buy the maps from the NAMRIA Map Sales Office?
>>
>> You can use the maps, but please acknowledge NAMRIA as the source and
>> mention the process you did on the maps (i.e scan,
>> georeference/georegister and trace)
>>
>> For more info. please call us at 8105466.
>>
>> Truly yours,
>>
>> Alvin Laurio
>>
>> My original message:
>> Hi, I would like to ask legal clarification on the use of the NAMRIA
>> 1:50k topographic maps. If I manually scan the maps and distribute
>> them for free to colleagues on the internet and allow then to trace
>> features in the image, am I infringing NAMRIA's copyright over the
>> maps? Please provide clarification. The paper maps do not clearly
>> indicate restrictions of use of the map. Thank you very much.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 7:44 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar <seav80 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Are these maps kosher for tracing?
>>>
>>> The Intellectual Property Code of the Philippines (Republic Act No.
>>> 8293) has this to say:
>>>
>>> "Section 176.1. No copyright shall subsist in any work of the
>>> Government of the Philippines. However, prior approval of the
>>> government agency or office wherein the work is created shall be
>>> necessary for exploitation of such work for profit. [...]"
>>>
>>> The Wikipedia community has taken this to mean that government works
>>> are still copyrighted because of the non-commercial clause.
>>>
>>> But, additionally, copyright in the Philippines generally persist for
>>> the author's life + 50 years or 50 years after publication/making
>>> depending on the work. So maps published in the 1950s *might* be OK.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 12:33 PM, maning sambale
>>> <emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Bunny,
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Leonard Soriano
>>>> <banito_pinoy at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Maning rectified. However naka Transverse Mercator/Luzon Datum. I can re-project kung kinakailangan pero madami dami rin yun.
>>>>
>>>> If possible please re-project to lat/lon wgs84 (EPSG:4326).  Upload it
>>>> somewhere we can fetch the data.
>>>>
>>>>> CI produced a dataset ng rivers based on the Namria 125.000k. Pero They also produced a Philippine shoreline that includes main rivers (eg. Cagayan River) based on 1:50k topo maps.  Extracting the polylines of the rivers might is easy and can be used temporarily while the Landsat river system is on the way being digitized.
>>>> The CI dataset requires a whole lot of data request processing (data
>>>> holders are a combination of NGO, and national agencies, which
>>>> requires everyone's approval).
>>>>
>>>>> May specific province ba pagsisimulan ng focus ng mapping? or lahat basta na apektuhan ng bagyo?
>>>> I'm still collating information on the heavily affected areas.  Please
>>>> help in sorting the information.
>>>> NDCC has soem good reports on provincial site reports:
>>>> http://www.ndcc.gov.ph/
>>>>
>>>> Make sure to update the wiki:
>>>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Philippines_Tropical_Storm_2010
>>>>
>>>>> --bunny
>>>>>
>>>>> --- On Mon, 18/10/10, maning sambale <emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> From: maning sambale <emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com>
>>>>>> Subject: [talk-ph] Typhoon Megi/Juan Humanitarian OSM Team activation request
>>>>>> To: "osm-ph" <talk-ph at openstreetmap.org>, "osm-talk" <talk at openstreetmap.org>
>>>>>> Received: Monday, 18 October, 2010, 10:55 AM
>>>>>> Dear everyone,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I created an activation request for mapping affected areas
>>>>>> Typhoon
>>>>>> Megi/Juan in the Philippines.  At the moment, there
>>>>>> are no high-res
>>>>>> available in the area.  What we can for now is to map
>>>>>> large rivers
>>>>>> visible in Landsat which is likely to be flooded.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As the event progresses, we will evaluate specific areas
>>>>>> needing
>>>>>> high-res imagery.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks in advance for supporting the initiative.
>>>>>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team/philippines_juan
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> cheers,
>>>>>> maning
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>>>> maning
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>>
>> --
>> cheers,
>> maning
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>
>
>
> --
> cheers,
> maning
> ------------------------------------------------------
> "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden
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> blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/
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cheers,
maning
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