[talk-ph] Tagging suggestion: Use the branch=* tag!
Rally de Leon
ralleon at gmail.com
Wed Apr 27 07:08:31 BST 2011
'name:branch' is just something I invented. Besides the reasons as I already
stated earlier (like bunching of similar tag by natural sorting-order of
josm), I hesitated using plain 'branch' tag earlier because I'm afraid it
may be reserved for other generic/universal purpose in osm (that I'm not
aware of and produce conflict later...) and I'm too lazy to do research. :-)
Now it appears no one is using or will be using 'branch' other than the PH's
definition of a shop's "branch name or code".
ok then, let's adapt 'branch', just rename all name:branch you'll find while
editing, and let's hope it becomes adapted by osm. :-)
(no problem with garmin map, since we treat both branch & name:branch as
valid tags in the style filter, until such time we renamed all name:branch
for consistency).
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 12:04 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar <seav80 at gmail.com>wrote:
> So does everyone agree that we should use "branch" instead of
> "name:branch" as the key for the tag?
>
> (I prefer "branch" because it's faster to type with autocomplete: "br")
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 4:08 PM, maning sambale
> <emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Nothing on the wiki, but, it used even outside the PH (although more
> > than half is here in the PH):
> > http://taginfo.openstreetmap.de/keys/branch#values
> > http://tagwatch.stoecker.eu/Philippines/En/top_undocumented_keys.html
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Rally de Leon <ralleon at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> ok lang ako with plain branch, it's easier to type. I have no problem
> >> typing it on josm editor, since it's autofill, once it detects the
> presence
> >> of at least one name:branch tag in your work area.
> >>
> >> 'name:branch' is just a personal preference because name & name:branch
> shows
> >> in sequential/alphabetical order on JOSM. It's nicer to look at, and I
> like
> >> the name-association approach in our other openstreetmap. eg. the way we
> use
> >> place:ph which appears close to other place tags (i like the fact that
> >> closely-related-tags tend to bunch together) :-)
> >>
> >> anyway, whatever is agreed upon, i'll follow. (what's the approach of
> other
> >> osm people worldwide or they don't care about the branches?)
> >>
> >> On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 3:18 PM, maning sambale <
> emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I agree with all your points, perhaps we can start adding the branch
> >>> tag to all common POIs (jollibee, mcdo, etc.)? But why use the
> >>> name:branch instead of just the branch tag?
> >>>
> >>> Of course, I will follow whatever we agree as a group. ;)
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Rally de Leon <ralleon at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 11:14 AM, maning sambale
> >>> > <emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> >>
> >>> >> +1 for adding the branch tag.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> @Rally, is there any additional benefit for using the "name:branch"
> >>> >> key?
> >>> >>
> >>> >> In the garmin map, it shows as Name - Branch.
> >>> >>
> >>> >
> >>> > For garmin map, the plan is to add "name" + "-" + "name:branch" when
> the
> >>> > map
> >>> > is compiled, so that it's more convenient to search for a particular
> >>> > shop
> >>> > while you're mobile. (need not look at the properties of every poi on
> >>> > the
> >>> > 'search results' to see if you got the correct address). I'm sure gps
> >>> > users
> >>> > know this, and this is the reason why many contributors put the
> >>> > branch-name
> >>> > after the shop's name.
> >>> >
> >>> > So why separate (if we will combine them altogether again for garmin
> >>> > map)?,
> >>> > because others may want to extract all the Jollibee's, Metrobanks,
> >>> > Mecury
> >>> > Drugs, 7-Eleven's etc. It's much much easier to filter out a specific
> >>> > brand
> >>> > (for whatever purpose it may serve, eg. market study).
> >>> >
> >>> > If in the future, I want all my Shell Stations to have a unique
> custom
> >>> > Icon,
> >>> > all I have to do is filter out all name=Shell & amenity=fuel on the
> >>> > style
> >>> > section. If we encourage contributors to put so many different
> >>> > name-branch
> >>> > combinations, we might miss out a few branches in the process.
>
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