[talk-ph] maps for mountaineers/ outdoor lovers

maning sambale emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com
Thu Feb 17 01:49:28 GMT 2011

+1 to  all the ideas mentioned.  Everything is possible, given enough
resources.  Part of the goal of the osmph garmin map is to create
"easy" to use tools for anyone to compile their own maps (and
hopefully share them).

The focus right now is to make the default map useful to everyone.  I
encourage you to at least try to compile your own maps and work on the
customizations.  I'd be glad to help you get started.  Later on, we
will try to compile specialized maps (cycling, mountaineering,

On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 12:18 AM, rem zamora <pompyang at gmail.com> wrote:
> eugene,
> you got my point exactly!
> been climbing mountains myself recently. last data uploaded by me in osm was
> trail to summit in kanlaon via guintubdan trail. trail tracks are very
> useful particularly in the outdoors. you need not rely 100 percent on the
> gps but i feel safer with this info uploaded to my gps.
> this is also helpful in search and rescue operations particularly in the
> mountains where road maps are not that important. we need topo maps in these
> mountains plus trail maps and waypoints.
> i still havent uploaded my waypoints but i usually save campsites, water
> source, rest stops, and other important points along the trail sucj as
> landmarks. and of course the summits. (so when i hike with people who keep
> on asking "are we there yet?" i can easily say we are about so and so
> kilometers away and it will take us about so and so hours hehe) was able to
> do this during recent climb to pulag :)
> anyway i hope you guys (the compilers) hear me on this. :) i dont know if i
> can learn the process but you can rely on me for data gathering :)
> rem
> On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 12:06 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar <seav80 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> Well, if you want to get your hands dirty, you can actually DIY! The
>> Garmin maps are compiled using mkgmap and you just need the raw OSM
>> data (Geofabrik provides Philippine data extracts), the contour data
>> (maybe Maning can share his data, but they were made using Groundtruth
>> from NASA's SRTM data), and mkgmap itself (plus some learning time).
>> But, we could additionally adopt your suggestion and consider adding
>> another Garmin map download which has the consolidated contours for
>> selected mountaineering peaks, and make the hiking/trekking trails
>> more prominent. A mountaineer's map anyone?
>> Hmmm, thinking about it, I actually like the idea! Instead of
>> targeting only the car owners with the OSM Garmin map, we could also
>> "expand the market" and target also the mountaineering clubs. A Garmin
>> map that still contains roads (so the mountaineers can drive to the
>> base camps and jump-off points) plus prominent hiking trails and
>> contours would be a perfect addition. And if this map becomes popular,
>> then we have another potential source of contributors who can map the
>> rural and mountainous areas. :-D
>> On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 10:04 PM, rem zamora <pompyang at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > hey! just thinking aloud here. i know we have our osm map. and we also
>> > have
>> > the 10m elevation contour map of the country. what if... we can
>> > consolidate
>> > the two. in maning's page
>> > (http://esambale.wikispaces.com/osmphil_garmin)
>> > there is already an osm map with contour. i havent checked it yet but
>> > the
>> > note says it is only metro manila map and it might get too cluttered.
>> > maybe, we can, put osm map for the whole country, and then put contour
>> > maps
>> > for special places/mountains like apo, kanlaon, pulag, mayon, et.al. im
>> > not
>> > sure how this can be implemented but maybe, just maybe there is a way to
>> > put
>> > contour maps (just for certain areas where it can be useful) with street
>> > maps from osm.
>> > this will eliminate me having to put two maps in my gpsr and
>> > enabling/disabling the mamp whic is needed/not needed.
>> > just a suggestion guys :)
>> >
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