[talk-ph] maps for mountaineers/ outdoor lovers

rem zamora pompyang at gmail.com
Thu Feb 17 04:55:45 GMT 2011


i'd like to be part of that project maning!

currently uploading trail tracks from banaue to pula to mt. amuyao to barlig
:)

On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 12:28 PM, maning sambale <emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com
> wrote:

> Bunny,
>
> We have a few mountain trails already added in OSM.  Most mountain
> peaks are also there (coming from GNS so this needs correction).
> Using the default map and contour, I believe this is useful already
> for mountaineers.
>
> What we need from the mountaineers are:
>  - more trail/hiking data along with the trail classes
> (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:sac_scale)
>  - location of peaks/viewpoints/trail stops and other amenities
>
> I don't know if UPM or other mountaineering groups are aware of our
> project or the osmph garmin maps.  We can of course design a garmin
> map for them, all we need are inputs on how they classify trails.
> Perhaps we can have a session with these group to share how to
> contribute in osm and then compile their own maps?
>
> On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 11:57 AM, Leonard Soriano
> <banito_pinoy at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > Eugene,
> >
> > Magandang project yan! This is actually important as it can be used not
> only for recreation purposes but even for search and rescue efforts.
> >
> > I am thinking, if we could start on a case site like a national park that
> is frequently visited by  visitors both seasoned and not seasoned climbers.
> For example Mt. Pulag National Park. Given the traffic it gets the whole
> year, the benefits of having a gps map of the park complete with trail and
> waypoints has a very high potential.  For the past years, I was doing trail
> survey data with the UP Mountaineers and we have covered
> Ambangeg/Ambaguio/Akiki/ and just recently Tinoc trail.
> >
> > For those people who might be interested, a DRAFT result of the trail
> survey can be downloaded from this link:
> >
> > https://www.yousendit.com/download/MzZFblFKbWdoeVpjR0E9PQ
> > password: @MtPNP_Draft
> >
> > The trails are already in OSM and some of the waypoints.
> >
> > For the contour data, I do have a digital files based from NAMRIA 1:50K
> topo maps and if our mappers would want to compile this, I can upload it
> somewhere for downloads.
> >
> > Napapanahon itong idea na ito.
> >
> > --bunny
> >
> >
> >
> > --- On Wed, 16/2/11, rem zamora <pompyang at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > From: rem zamora <pompyang at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [talk-ph] maps for mountaineers/ outdoor lovers
> > To: "Eugene Alvin Villar" <seav80 at gmail.com>
> > Cc: talk-ph at openstreetmap.org
> > Received: Wednesday, 16 February, 2011, 4:18 PM
> >
> > eugene,
> > you got my point exactly!
> > been climbing mountains myself recently. last data uploaded by me in osm
> was trail to summit in kanlaon via guintubdan trail. trail tracks are very
> useful particularly in the outdoors. you need not rely 100 percent on the
> gps but i feel safer with this info uploaded to my gps.
> > this is also helpful in search and rescue operations particularly in the
> mountains where road maps are not that important. we need topo maps in these
> mountains plus trail maps and waypoints.
> > i still havent uploaded my waypoints but i usually save campsites, water
> source, rest stops, and other important points along the trail sucj as
> landmarks. and of course the summits. (so when i hike with people who keep
> on asking "are we there yet?" i can easily say we are about so and so
> kilometers away and it will take us about so and so hours hehe) was able to
> do this during recent climb to pulag :)
> > anyway i hope you guys (the compilers) hear me on this. :) i dont know if
> i can learn the process but you can rely on me for data gathering :)
> > rem
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 12:06 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar <seav80 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Well, if you want to get your hands dirty, you can actually DIY! The
> > Garmin maps are compiled using mkgmap and you just need the raw OSM
> > data (Geofabrik provides Philippine data extracts), the contour data
> > (maybe Maning can share his data, but they were made using Groundtruth
> > from NASA's SRTM data), and mkgmap itself (plus some learning time).
> >
> > But, we could additionally adopt your suggestion and consider adding
> > another Garmin map download which has the consolidated contours for
> > selected mountaineering peaks, and make the hiking/trekking trails
> > more prominent. A mountaineer's map anyone?
> >
> > Hmmm, thinking about it, I actually like the idea! Instead of
> > targeting only the car owners with the OSM Garmin map, we could also
> > "expand the market" and target also the mountaineering clubs. A Garmin
> > map that still contains roads (so the mountaineers can drive to the
> > base camps and jump-off points) plus prominent hiking trails and
> > contours would be a perfect addition. And if this map becomes popular,
> > then we have another potential source of contributors who can map the
> > rural and mountainous areas. :-D
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 10:04 PM, rem zamora <pompyang at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > hey! just thinking aloud here. i know we have our osm map. and we also
> have
> > > the 10m elevation contour map of the country. what if... we can
> consolidate
> > > the two. in maning's page (
> http://esambale.wikispaces.com/osmphil_garmin)
> > > there is already an osm map with contour. i havent checked it yet but
> the
> > > note says it is only metro manila map and it might get too cluttered.
> > > maybe, we can, put osm map for the whole country, and then put contour
> maps
> > > for special places/mountains like apo, kanlaon, pulag, mayon, et.al.
> im not
> > > sure how this can be implemented but maybe, just maybe there is a way
> to put
> > > contour maps (just for certain areas where it can be useful) with
> street
> > > maps from osm.
> > > this will eliminate me having to put two maps in my gpsr and
> > > enabling/disabling the mamp whic is needed/not needed.
> > > just a suggestion guys :)
> > >
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