[talk-ph] Meetup with OSM-PH community for the "Participatory mapping and LGU decision support tools for Disaster Risk Reduction" Project
emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com
Wed Jul 10 09:50:39 UTC 2013
It was great event! 11 people joined and I am personally happy to meet new
people whom I see only as usernames in the OSM editors (JOSM, P2 and iD)
Photos in FB:
Here's the summary of our notes thanks to feye and dianne for compiling. :)
- Rally De Leon
- Eugene Villar
- Erwin Olario
- Miguel Martin Menez
- Ervin Malicdem
- Vanessa Malicdem
- John Ernest Caliwag
- Leonard Doyle
- Maning Sambale
- Feye Andal
- Dianne Bencito
- Photos -
Discussion and agreements Brief introduction about ESSC
Maning introduced the Environmental Science for Social Change (ESSC) which
the WorldBank has partnership on *Participatory Mapping and LGU decision
support tools for DRR*.
ESSC is a Jesuit research institution engaged in local, national and
regional research and dialogue that contribute to an understanding and
sustainability of community-based environmental management through the
development of a "science for social change".
ESSC's approach to environmental mapping makes significant contribution to
building people's capacities to collectively manage and plan towards an
improvement of their way of life through a more responsive management of
Sevaral mapping related project of ESSC includes: Marikina Watershed,
Community Mapping, IPs (Bukidnon Pulangiyen), FOSS-Geo Training, Forest
Project Overview (WorldBank-ESSC Partnership)
Maning presented the ESSC_WB partnership entitled *Participatory Mapping
and LGU decision support tools for DRR*
The project is a six month project focusing on providing capacity to local
government units to "prepare/formulate risk-sensitive land-use plans,
structural audits of public infrastructure and disaster contingency plans."
The LGUs need access to hazard and risk data through user friendly tools
for analyzing this information for specific decisions.
Major Objectives are:
- support growth of OSM
- support customization of InaSAFE (impact assessment)
Activities and Components:
- Developing tools and learning materials. Training materials will be
largely based on the www.learnosm.org.
- Trainings to 5 LGUs and other local partners. The target LGUs are:
(Candaba, Guagua, Lubao in Pampanga; Calamba, Bay, Santa Cruz in Laguna).
- This is not yet final since we need to secure approval from the
DILG and the respective LGU leaders.
- ESSC is also looking for local OSM volunteers (trainors) who can
help in conducting the training (email emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com if
you are interested)
- Sharing, distribution and maintenance of data.
- Build and nurture partnerships and collaborations.
- ESSC is open to interested groups or individuals to participate in
- Sharing project outcomes to the public.
- Related to OSM-PH, we have committed to co-organize small OSM-PH
community events. Our QC office can accommodate small events for OSM-PH.
The slides are here:
- *On the flooding in Candaba, Pampanga*. Ernest mentioned that the
flooding in Candaba is partly due to water coming from upstream towns of
Bulacan (san Miguel and Dona Remedios Trinidad). Ernest is from San Miguel
and has contacts with the current LGU leaders. It would be good to
coordinate and share some aspects of the project to San Miguel so that they
can also participate if possible. Ernest agreed to initiate the
- *On the lack of active marketing within OSM-PH community to expand
user base.* Unlike other community mapping projects (G MapMaker), OSM-PH
doesn't do intensive PR and the "marketing" of OSM in the Philippines rely
mostly on word-of-mouth. This is understandable since being volunteer group
we don't have any dedicated marketing arm. Related to ESSC's project, we
will try provide regular updates in our website to support the marketing
aspect. If others have ideas on how we can spread the word even more,
- *On encouraging the use of local language in the OSM-PH
mailinglist.*This talk-ph mailinglist is very much EN language
centric. Maning proposes
that we encourage the use of other local language to encourage LGUs to post
and ask questions. EN maybe intimidating to some people and maybe one
reason very few newbies are posting. The group agreed that this is OK
and should be encouraged.
- *On additional tags for roads that is used by LGUs.* LGUs interested
in using OSM data and they are trying to make sense of our road
classification scheme. OSM road tagging is mostly by function (motorway,
trunk, primary, secondary, oneway, etc.) and physical characteristics
(unpaved, concrete, etc). Most LGUs categorize road by administrative
jurisdiction (i. e. national road, provincial road, municipal road). There
were previous discussion in this list related to this (
The group agreed to adopt the designation=* tag to incorporate the LGU
categories For example, highway=primary, designation=provincial.
However, looking at the above list discussion, there is also a proposed
highway:admin=* Is this more appropriate or we just adopt designation?
- *On the OSM meet-up and schedule of project activities.* To be able to
participate in the planned activities, ESSC will post the schedules 2
weeks before the activity. For now, the project plan is that LGU
trainings will start either by August to September.
Related to small meetups, we have a page to coordinate them (
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Philippines/Events/SkillShare) If you
have ideas on what topics, please edit that page. Some initial ideas
discussed during the meeting was:
- How to build your own Garmin maps based on OSM. The goal is for others
to contribute to improving (style, routing, search) of our OSMPH Garmin
- Edit sprints. We edit a specific feature in OSM (schools, admin
- *On download services that will easily use OSM for non-technical users.
* Rally stated that some data users may have difficulty in understanding
how they can use the data. He proposed that we build a simple download
interface where people can get sample OSM like a CSV of all schools in
Metro Manila. This data can be easily viewed in a spreadsheet application
without requirning any GIS skills. A related discussion he also raised in
the list before (
Maning demonstrated he use of GDAL/OGR to extract this kind of data and
Eugene also showed the Overpass API to do this. These tools are still
difficult for many interested users. Bottom line is that we still need
to find ways for people to easily get data from OSM.
Presentation of Maptastic
Leonard Doyle of the International Organization for Migration (IOM)
presented IOM's Maptastic! Project.
The project's goal is to increase community awareness towards on DRR using
media campaigns and community mapping.
The project's initial plan is to conduct community mapping activities to 10
barangays that was affected by Typhoon Pablo in Davao Oriental. OSM will be
the platform of this mapping activity.
IOM is looking for OSM-PH's support for this project in the form of:
- Remote mappers who can help in improving data in the target barangays.
- Local mappers who can join in the planned mapping events.
- Advise on technologies they can adapt or further develop.
Details about the project here:
Editing relations in JOSM
The last part of the meeting was a demonstration by Eugene on how to use
and edit relations using JOSM. He explained what a relation is and showed
how to use/and not use relations. Thanks Eugene for the impromptu skill
"Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden
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