[talk-ph] Meetup with OSM-PH community for the "Participatory mapping and LGU decision support tools for Disaster Risk Reduction" Project

lrazafindrazay at worldbank.org lrazafindrazay at worldbank.org
Wed Jul 10 13:48:36 UTC 2013

You guys are stars ! 

Thank you so much again for all your hard work. 

Best from DC, 


From:   Ervin Malicdem <schadow1 at gmail.com>
To:     maning sambale <emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com>
Cc:     osm-ph <talk-ph at openstreetmap.org>
Date:   07/10/2013 06:59 AM
Subject:        Re: [talk-ph] Meetup with OSM-PH community for the 
"Participatory mapping and LGU decision support tools for Disaster Risk 
Reduction" Project

Hi All,

Additional photos here. (Included some that were posted in OSMPH FB page.



Ervin M.
Schadow1 Expeditions - A Filipino must not be a stranger to his own 

On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 5:50 PM, maning sambale <
emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com> wrote:
Dear everyone,

It was great event! 11 people joined and I am personally happy to meet new 
people whom I see only as usernames in the OSM editors (JOSM, P2 and iD)
Photos in FB: 

Here's the summary of our notes thanks to feye and dianne for compiling. 

Rally De Leon 
Eugene Villar 
Erwin Olario 
Miguel Martin Menez 
Ervin Malicdem 
Vanessa Malicdem 
John Ernest Caliwag 
Leonard Doyle 
Maning Sambale 
Feye Andal 
Dianne Bencito 
Photos - 

Discussion and agreements
Brief introduction about ESSC
Maning introduced the Environmental Science for Social Change (ESSC) which 
the WorldBank has partnership on Participatory Mapping and LGU decision 
support tools for DRR. 
ESSC is a Jesuit research institution engaged in local, national and 
regional research and dialogue that contribute to an understanding and 
sustainability of community-based environmental management through the 
development of a "science for social change". 
ESSC's approach to environmental mapping makes significant contribution to 
building people's capacities to collectively manage and plan towards an 
improvement of their way of life through a more responsive management of 
the environment. 
Sevaral mapping related project of ESSC includes: Marikina Watershed, 
Community Mapping, IPs (Bukidnon Pulangiyen), FOSS-Geo Training, Forest 
cover monitoring. 
Project Overview (WorldBank-ESSC Partnership)
Maning presented the ESSC_WB partnership entitled Participatory Mapping 
and LGU decision support tools for DRR 
The project is a six month project focusing on providing capacity to local 
government units to "prepare/formulate risk-sensitive land-use plans, 
structural audits of public infrastructure and disaster contingency 
The LGUs need access to hazard and risk data through user friendly tools 
for analyzing this information for specific decisions. 
Major Objectives are: 
support growth of OSM 
support customization of InaSAFE (impact assessment) 
Activities and Components: 
Developing tools and learning materials. Training materials will be 
largely based on the www.learnosm.org. 
Trainings to 5 LGUs and other local partners. The target LGUs are: 
(Candaba, Guagua, Lubao in Pampanga; Calamba, Bay, Santa Cruz in Laguna). 
This is not yet final since we need to secure approval from the DILG and 
the respective LGU leaders. 
ESSC is also looking for local OSM volunteers (trainors) who can help in 
conducting the training (email emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com if you are 
Sharing, distribution and maintenance of data. 
Build and nurture partnerships and collaborations. 
ESSC is open to interested groups or individuals to participate in the 
Sharing project outcomes to the public. 
Related to OSM-PH, we have committed to co-organize small OSM-PH community 
events. Our QC office can accommodate small events for OSM-PH. 
The slides are here: 
Issues raised/comments
On the flooding in Candaba, Pampanga. Ernest mentioned that the flooding 
in Candaba is partly due to water coming from upstream towns of Bulacan 
(san Miguel and Dona Remedios Trinidad). Ernest is from San Miguel and has 
contacts with the current LGU leaders. It would be good to coordinate and 
share some aspects of the project to San Miguel so that they can also 
participate if possible. Ernest agreed to initiate the coordination. 
On the lack of active marketing within OSM-PH community to expand user 
base. Unlike other community mapping projects (G MapMaker), OSM-PH doesn't 
do intensive PR and the "marketing" of OSM in the Philippines rely mostly 
on word-of-mouth. This is understandable since being volunteer group we 
don't have any dedicated marketing arm. Related to ESSC's project, we will 
try provide regular updates in our website to support the marketing 
aspect. If others have ideas on how we can spread the word even more, 
let's discuss. 
On encouraging the use of local language in the OSM-PH mailinglist. This 
talk-ph mailinglist is very much EN language centric. Maning proposes that 
we encourage the use of other local language to encourage LGUs to post and 
ask questions. EN maybe intimidating to some people and maybe one reason 
very few newbies are posting. The group agreed that this is OK and should 
be encouraged. 
On additional tags for roads that is used by LGUs. LGUs interested in 
using OSM data and they are trying to make sense of our road 
classification scheme. OSM road tagging is mostly by function (motorway, 
trunk, primary, secondary, oneway, etc.) and physical characteristics 
(unpaved, concrete, etc). Most LGUs categorize road by administrative 
jurisdiction (i. e. national road, provincial road, municipal road). There 
were previous discussion in this list related to this (
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ph/2012-May/003974.html) The 
group agreed to adopt the designation=* tag to incorporate the LGU 
categories For example, highway=primary, designation=provincial. 
However, looking at the above list discussion, there is also a proposed 
highway:admin=* Is this more appropriate or we just adopt designation? 
On the OSM meet-up and schedule of project activities. To be able to 
participate in the planned activities, ESSC will post the schedules 2 
weeks before the activity. For now, the project plan is that LGU trainings 
will start either by August to September. 
Related to small meetups, we have a page to coordinate them (
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Philippines/Events/SkillShare) If you 
have ideas on what topics, please edit that page. Some initial ideas 
discussed during the meeting was: 
How to build your own Garmin maps based on OSM. The goal is for others to 
contribute to improving (style, routing, search) of our OSMPH Garmin map. 
Edit sprints. We edit a specific feature in OSM (schools, admin 
boundaries, etc.) 
On download services that will easily use OSM for non-technical users. 
Rally stated that some data users may have difficulty in understanding how 
they can use the data. He proposed that we build a simple download 
interface where people can get sample OSM like a CSV of all schools in 
Metro Manila. This data can be easily viewed in a spreadsheet application 
without requirning any GIS skills. A related discussion he also raised in 
the list before (
). Maning demonstrated he use of GDAL/OGR to extract this kind of data and 
Eugene also showed the Overpass API to do this. These tools are still 
difficult for many interested users. Bottom line is that we still need to 
find ways for people to easily get data from OSM. 
Presentation of Maptastic
Leonard Doyle of the International Organization for Migration (IOM) 
presented IOM's Maptastic! Project. 
The project's goal is to increase community awareness towards on DRR using 
media campaigns and community mapping. 
The project's initial plan is to conduct community mapping activities to 
10 barangays that was affected by Typhoon Pablo in Davao Oriental. OSM 
will be the platform of this mapping activity. 
IOM is looking for OSM-PH's support for this project in the form of: 
Remote mappers who can help in improving data in the target barangays. 
Local mappers who can join in the planned mapping events. 
Advise on technologies they can adapt or further develop. 
Details about the project here: 
Editing relations in JOSM
The last part of the meeting was a demonstration by Eugene on how to use 
and edit relations using JOSM. He explained what a relation is and showed 
how to use/and not use relations. Thanks Eugene for the impromptu skill 
sharing! :) 

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