[talk-ph] Icons on POI's - Proposal

Ronny Ager-Wick ronny at ager-wick.com
Sat May 24 21:38:32 UTC 2014

Totally agree, Eugene.
Much better with consistent data, with one way to tag a certain thing, than to 
have different processes adapt to incorrect tags, regardless of how frequent. 
Besides, anyone calling McDonalds a *restaurant* clearly needs to get out more! :)

On 25/05/14 04:44, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote:
> Hi Mark,
> I think it would be better for all users of the data in the long run that 
> the inconsistent name field is the one corrected instead of your system 
> adjusting for it.
> Let's say that you have a "rule" that says that that name=McDonald's with 
> amenity=fast_food gets the Golden Arches icon.
> Now let's say you have other rules that detect stuff that are probably 
> McDonald's: name=McDonalds amenity=restaurant
> Instead of tagging stuff like this with an additional tag 
> icon:ph=mcdonalds.png, it would be better to correct those POIs that don't 
> follow the correct tagging. If you have a system that detects such 
> near-misses, then I'm sure the community would like to get a list of them so 
> that they can be corrected.
> I hope other mappers and users can chime in with their ideas.
> On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 6:32 PM, Mark Cupitt <markcupitt at gmail.com 
> <mailto:markcupitt at gmail.com>> wrote:
>     Folks, have been thinking about how we specify Icons for POI's in the
>     Philippines OSM Map. I have Icons for most of the PH specific
>     businesses, like Jollibee, Banks, and so on and would like to use them
>     At the moment, the only way to do this is to run through the database
>     checking the name tag and seeing if it starts with jollibee, BDO mcdo,
>     etc. This is a very intensive effort on a million+ points. I am doing
>     the code for it now and it has to be run on a very regular basis to pick
>     up new POI'S from the daily diff updates. It also suffers form spelling
>     errors, and fomat errors, for example "the jollibee" will to be
>     identified as the name has to start with "jollibee" (in text string
>     searches in postgres do not use indexes, and are too expensive on the
>     database, so we have to assume that the name starts with the search text.
>     I will publish the icons we have at some stage very soon where they can
>     be viewed by anyone.
>     To make it very easy to have granular control over icon display, I
>     propose that we do the following:
>     Add an icon:ph tag to nodes as they are created that contains the
>     filename of the icon to display (from the list published)
>     For example, a node of a Mcdonalds might have a tag amenity="fast_food"
>     name="Mcdonalds Quezon City" and a icon:ph="mcdonalds.png"
>     The system will first check if the icon:ph exists and use the icon
>     specified in that. if not, it will fall back to database determined
>     value done on a weekly or monthly basis, with all the inherent pitfalls
>     in the use of the name field. If that does not work, it will display a
>     generic icon which is a Red Dot.
>     One big advantage of this proposal is that people can submit their own
>     logos in icon form, they are easy to add to the system, them specify
>     them for specific businesses, leisure, bars, etc. on the actual poi ..so
>     the value added to the map will be tremendous in the future.
>     Thoughts, flames, thumbs up, thumbs down, rounds of applause on this
>     proposal very much appreciated ..
>     Regards
>     Mark Cupitt
>     "If we change the world, let it bear the mark of our intelligence"
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