[talk-ph] Fwd: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [HOT] Skybox for Good imagery

Wed Nov 26 15:30:39 UTC 2014

To answer partly Erwin's Q.

Maning Sambale (mobile)
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From: "Mikel Maron" <mikel.maron at gmail.com>
Date: Nov 26, 2014 5:58 AM
Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [HOT] Skybox for Good imagery
To: "Pierre Béland" <pierzenh at yahoo.fr>, "mike at ayeltd.biz" <mike at ayeltd.biz>,
"Satoshi IIDA" <nyampire at gmail.com>, "Pat Tressel" <ptressel at myuw.net>
Cc: "hot" <hot at openstreetmap.org>, "legal-talk at openstreetmap.org" <
legal-talk at openstreetmap.org>

Hey

A few notes from talking this through with Josh

* Requests for SkyBox imagery would go through the usual HOT imagery
coordination process
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/HOT_activation#Imagery_Coordination
* Use of SkyBox imagery for HOT activations would be coordinated through
tasking manager projects.
* The listing of all SkyBox for good requests is at
https://mapsengine.google.com/00979750194450688595-08887688179650036554-4/mapview/?authuser=0.
We'd go through the coordination processes above, if a HOT activation
wanted to use existing imagery.
* At the moment, there is no tile service. HOT would need to set up tiles
from a downloaded GeoTIFF.

Hope that clears things up.

Btw, would be good to simply set up a test with one of the SkyBox for good
GeoTIFFs, to see how it compares with Bing georeferencing and resolution.

Best
Mikel

* Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron

 On Sunday, November 23, 2014 9:34 AM, Pierre Béland <pierzenh at yahoo.fr>
wrote:

These are great news for HOT Activations.

In the context of the Ebola outbreak, we have large territories to cover in
West Africa. There are various areas not yet well covered with high-res
imagery. With the sudden resurgence in various areas, we have to try to
find rapidly imagery.  Imagery could be also helpful to do some prevention
mapping in areas at risk, with limitroph regions having a spread of the
epidemy. There are areas in east Guinea and West Ivory Coast with no
high-res imagery.

We have the capacity to mount a tms server. If there are Skymap imagery
archives, What would help us is to have access to a catalog of metadata for
this imagery and a protocol to request for imagery.

regard

Pierre

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 *De :* Michael Collinson <mike at ayeltd.biz>
*À :* Satoshi IIDA <nyampire at gmail.com>; Pat Tressel <ptressel at myuw.net>
*Cc :* hot <hot at openstreetmap.org>
*Envoyé le :* Samedi 22 novembre 2014 2h52
*Objet :* Re: [HOT] Skybox for Good imagery

Hi Satoshi,

Yes.  My fault for delaying this but now done. Hence Josh' announcement. I
am happy that:

   - The provider is aware of what we will do with their imagery and data
   derived from it.
   - The provider has given their explicit permission to include derived
   data into the OSM database.
   - The proposed attribution mechanism, adding source to tags and/or
   change sets is practical, (the imagery will only be released in the context
   of HOT projects).  I have also added a new section for HOT under
   http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Attribution .

Mike
LWG

On 22/11/2014 01:15, Satoshi IIDA wrote:

 Hello,

 As my understanding, using Skybox imagery is a task for LWG currently.

https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2014-October/071318.html
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2014-October/071320.html
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2014-October/071295.html

 Are there any progress since the discussion?

2014-11-22 8:43 GMT+09:00 Pat Tressel <ptressel at myuw.net>:

Josh --

  As some of you may be aware, we recently announced the Skybox for Good
<http://www.skyboximaging.com/blog/introducing-skybox-for-good> program.

 We know that some of this imagery can be especially useful in Crisis
Response situations, and therefore we are explicitly authorizing usage of
Skybox for Good imagery in any current HOT Activation
<http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/HOT_activation>, under the condition
that changesets and/or features that are derived from Skybox for Good
imagery and committed to OSM are attributed to Skybox.

 That's fantastic news!!

 Ok, folks, who gets to send the formal Thank You....?  I bet that's the
communications working group.  And I also bet it's safe to infer a whole
bunch of individual thank-yous.  ;-)

 This could, for example, include the method of attributing Skybox as the
"source", or a similar method deemed appropriate by HOT.

 We had that older thread about imagery tagging, where it came down to
"source" (used since forever) and the new, automatically-added
"imagery_used" tag in iD, which, it was pointed out, might not be accurate
if the user switches imagery temporarily -- would have to see what iD does
in that case.  One thought -- maybe it would be good to add "imagery_used"
in JOSM with the same behavior as iD, just so they're consistent.  We'd
keep adding source, but imagery_used would be there as a fallback.  Task
validators can also check for a source tag, since a task usually specifies
a set of imagery.

 -- Pat

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