[talk-ph] Road name suffixes again

[Erwin Olario]

The current street-level imagery from Mapillary in the area shows no
"street" suffixes on the street signs.  Imagery, and local knowledge is the
basis for that particular edit.

The number one rule for mappers in OpenStreetMap is to map what's on the
ground. Adding "street" because it looks weird does not follow the
on-the-ground rule.

/Erwin


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On Sat, Feb 20, 2021 at 7:42 AM Jherome Miguel <jheromemiguel at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Since the discussion at https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/98219661,
> I think we should review our existing convention on naming streets,
> especially those with the "Street" suffix, and and handling of street with
> official signs that omit the suffixes. Common OSM practice on street names
> is to use full names, but existing PH convention somewhat encourages
> dropping of suffixes regardless of what signs say, especially for inner
> streets, just like some other road maps in the Philippines (and even
> signs) do.
>
> Some important arguments are:
>
> - OSM is also a database and not just a mere road map (and complete data
> is important). Road maps may use common short forms of full road names for
> easy recognition, but OSM is far more than those. Maps that use OSM data
> have many choices on how to handle road names: use the full name, use
> abbreviations, or just use the bare name. By eliminating it, important info
> is lost.
> - Using bare road names looks plain weird, especially for addresses
> (unless we're one of the countries where omitting affixes on most street
> names is the norm in maps, signs, and addresses). Ads, business signs, and
> things should also be considered as sources, not just the sign at the
> street corner. Official road signs may not be consistent in how the name is
> written, and the name posted in business addresses may be far better in
> telling the name of the road in question.
> - The temptation by some mappers to abbreviate suffixes is not a
> sufficient reason to eliminate these info from road names.
>
> --TagaSanPedroAko
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